Hi Ron, Thank you, You've confirmed my suspicion. Another thing I've noticed ... governments (all levels) tend to be more old-school than private companies and won't hire a person if they are unable to work at their office, even though support staff have remote access via a VPN.
Regards, David On 2019-08-21 17:25, McCabe, Ron wrote: > Hello David, > > What is gained by having people at the office would have to be answered by my > boss who is the director of Infrastructure...I can tell you he is old school > even though he is younger than me and has made the comment to us that he > likes "Butts in seats". I/we think he is a control freak. > > Thanks, > Ron McCabe > Manager of Mainframe/Midrange Systems > Mutual of Enumclaw > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of > David Spiegel > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 2:16 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home? > > Hi Ron, > For SysProgs in particular, what is gained by having people "at the office"? > I view this as old school, without justification. > If project milestones are set properly, the employees will have to work > consistently to meet them (and not goof off). > If the managers think that they can see who's working, they are mistaken. > > I can see where development staff might have to work at the office if the > environment is highly collaborative. > (I worked on an online banking project (3 years ago) where this was necessary. > > Charles: I work at 3 jobs (not all busy at once), all remote. > > Regards, > David > > On 2019-08-21 17:02, McCabe, Ron wrote: >> If this is something that should not have been done on the list I apologize >> but do have to admit that I would like to see what other companies are >> allowing in this area. >> >> Yes our employer does allow for mainframe sysprogs and developers to work >> from home. >> There are restrictions and the main one is who your manager is. Our >> developers have a nice manager and allows them to work from home 2 days a >> week, our sysprogs have a different manager and he only allows 1 day per >> week. >> No policies have been changed. >> About 90% of my colleagues work from home. Our developers are also allowed >> to work 9 80's and 4 10's, sysprogs and admins do not get to as they have to >> work 5 days a week. >> >> Thanks, >> Ron McCabe >> Manager of Mainframe/Midrange Systems >> Mutual of Enumclaw >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On >> Behalf Of Charles Mills >> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 1:46 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Attitude of companies toward mainframers working from home? >> >> I am doing a favor for a friend who is writing a blog article on the >> above subject, with an emphasis on the effect of the shrinking >> mainframe personnel pool. (This is NOT some disguised headhunter >> pitch. Reply to the list or to me personally. I will take full >> responsibility for "sanitizing" your e-mail address and so forth out >> of what I forward to my friend.) >> >> Does your employer allow mainframe sysprogs and developers to work from home? >> Any particular restrictions or qualifications? >> Have they changed their policies specifically to address the shrinking >> mainframe personnel pool? >> Roughly what percentage of your colleagues work from home? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Charles >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> Confidentiality Notice: This e- mail and all attachments may contain >> CONFIDENTIAL information and are meant solely for the intended recipient. It >> may contain controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is >> protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any >> unauthorized third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are >> hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, >> distribution, or reproduction of any information contained in this e- mail >> and any attachments is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e- mail in >> error, please reply to the sender immediately stating that this transmission >> was misdirected, and delete or destroy all electronic and paper copies of >> this e-mail and attachments without disclosing the contents. This e- mail >> does not grant or assign rights of ownership in the proprietary subject >> matter herein, nor shall it be construed as a joint venture, partnership, >> teaming agreement, or any other formal business relationship. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >> email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN . >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > Confidentiality Notice: This e- mail and all attachments may contain > CONFIDENTIAL information and are meant solely for the intended recipient. It > may contain controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is > protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized > third party. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or > reproduction of any information contained in this e- mail and any attachments > is strictly PROHIBITED. If you received this e- mail in error, please reply > to the sender immediately stating that this transmission was misdirected, and > delete or destroy all electronic and paper copies of this e-mail and > attachments without disclosing the contents. This e- mail does not grant or > assign rights of ownership in the proprietary subject matter herein, nor > shall it be construed as a joint venture, partnership, teaming agreement, or > any other formal business relationship. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN