Thanks! That helps explain an IPL last year of a newly-created LPAR where we removed every startup parm we could think of for the first IPL. ACF2 messages still showed up on the console, so I figured there must be a hook somewhere. We had copied the res-pack from an already running system.

On 5/21/2019 12:06 PM, Wayne Driscoll wrote:
The RACF subsystem gets started out if ICHSEC00, which is invoked out of IPL. 
If I recall correctly, both ACF2 and Top Secret provide a replacement for 
ICHSEC00 (probably the same code for both products).

Wayne Driscoll
Rocket Software
Note - All opinions are strictly my own.


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Tony Thigpen
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: IPL process - understanding IEFSSNxx

Thanks. That helped a lot.

One of the questions I am trying to answer is "who is starting RACF during 
IPL". It's not in COMMNDxx.

Tony Thigpen

John McKown wrote on 5/21/19 10:56 AM:
On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:47 AM John McKown
<[email protected]>
wrote:

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:27 AM Tony Thigpen <[email protected]> wrote:

I am looking at my ipl process and am trying to understand why some
of the start by themselves.

I am in a sandbox so I can play all I want.

My current IEFSSN00 is:
000001 SUBSYS SUBNAME(SMS)
000002    INITRTN(IGDSSIIN)
000003    INITPARM('ID=00,PROMPT=DISPLAY')
000004 SUBSYS SUBNAME(JES2) /* JES2 AS PRIMARY SUBSYSTEM */
000005   PRIMARY(YES) START(YES)
000006 SUBSYS SUBNAME(RACF)
000007   INITRTN(IRRSSI00)
000008   INITPARM('%,M')
000009 SUBSYS SUBNAME(CICS)
000010 SUBSYS SUBNAME(DFRM) /* NAME OF THE DFSMSRMM SUBSYSTEM */
000011   INITRTN(EDGSSSI)
000012 SUBSYS SUBNAME(TNF)
000013 SUBSYS SUBNAME(VMCF)
000014 SUBSYS SUBNAME(FFST)
000015 SUBSYS SUBNAME(IXFP)        /* IXFP SUBSYSTEM  */
000016    INITRTN(SIBSSIPL)
000017    INITPARM('INIT(Y),DYNDDSR(I),LANG(AMENG)')

I understand that JES will start because of the START(YES), but I am
also seeing other sub-systems like RACF start.

Does the INITRTN force an autostart as if START(YES) was specified?


I don't think so, but I can't be definitive. The INITRTN specifies a
program which will run in the master scheduler address space during
start up. Now, that program could do a START command, via SVC 34. Or
even use the ASCRE to create a new address space to run some code
which might stay around "forever". A case of "who knows unless it is 
documented".




It appears that jobs started with IEFSSNxx start as normal JES jobs.
Can IEFSSNxx be used to start tasks which run as SUB=MSTR.



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     - Once a subsystem name is defined to the system, any attempt to start
     that subsystem (or any started task with the same name as that subsystem)
     via a START command which does not explicitly specify SUB=JES2 (or JES3)
     will result in that subsystem or started task being started under the
     Master subsystem rather than under the job entry subsystem. Because the
     only procedure libraries available to the Master subsystem are those
     specified in the MSTJCLxx's IEFPDSI data set, any procedures being started
     that are defined in the job entry subsystem's PROC00 data set, but not in
     the MSTJCLxx's IEFPDSI data set, will be unavailable. Therefore they will
     not be found; the system will issue message IEFC612I.



I forgot to mention. It might _appear_ that the subsystem is running
under JES when it is actually running SUB=MSTR if the code does an SSI
function code 20 "Request Job ID". That will connect it to the primary
JES so that it can do things such as dynamically allocate SYSOUT.

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