Thanks. That helped a lot.

One of the questions I am trying to answer is "who is starting RACF during IPL". It's not in COMMNDxx.

Tony Thigpen

John McKown wrote on 5/21/19 10:56 AM:
On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:47 AM John McKown <[email protected]>
wrote:

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:27 AM Tony Thigpen <[email protected]> wrote:

I am looking at my ipl process and am trying to understand why some of
the start by themselves.

I am in a sandbox so I can play all I want.

My current IEFSSN00 is:
000001 SUBSYS SUBNAME(SMS)
000002    INITRTN(IGDSSIIN)
000003    INITPARM('ID=00,PROMPT=DISPLAY')
000004 SUBSYS SUBNAME(JES2) /* JES2 AS PRIMARY SUBSYSTEM */
000005   PRIMARY(YES) START(YES)
000006 SUBSYS SUBNAME(RACF)
000007   INITRTN(IRRSSI00)
000008   INITPARM('%,M')
000009 SUBSYS SUBNAME(CICS)
000010 SUBSYS SUBNAME(DFRM) /* NAME OF THE DFSMSRMM SUBSYSTEM */
000011   INITRTN(EDGSSSI)
000012 SUBSYS SUBNAME(TNF)
000013 SUBSYS SUBNAME(VMCF)
000014 SUBSYS SUBNAME(FFST)
000015 SUBSYS SUBNAME(IXFP)        /* IXFP SUBSYSTEM  */
000016    INITRTN(SIBSSIPL)
000017    INITPARM('INIT(Y),DYNDDSR(I),LANG(AMENG)')

I understand that JES will start because of the START(YES), but I am
also seeing other sub-systems like RACF start.

Does the INITRTN force an autostart as if START(YES) was specified?


I don't think so, but I can't be definitive. The INITRTN specifies a
program which will run in the master scheduler address space during start
up. Now, that program could do a START command, via SVC 34. Or even use the
ASCRE to create a new address space to run some code which might stay
around "forever". A case of "who knows unless it is documented".




It appears that jobs started with IEFSSNxx start as normal JES jobs. Can
IEFSSNxx be used to start tasks which run as SUB=MSTR.



https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieae200/iefssn1.htm


    - Once a subsystem name is defined to the system, any attempt to start
    that subsystem (or any started task with the same name as that subsystem)
    via a START command which does not explicitly specify SUB=JES2 (or JES3)
    will result in that subsystem or started task being started under the
    Master subsystem rather than under the job entry subsystem. Because the
    only procedure libraries available to the Master subsystem are those
    specified in the MSTJCLxx's IEFPDSI data set, any procedures being started
    that are defined in the job entry subsystem's PROC00 data set, but not in
    the MSTJCLxx's IEFPDSI data set, will be unavailable. Therefore they will
    not be found; the system will issue message IEFC612I.



I forgot to mention. It might _appear_ that the subsystem is running under
JES when it is actually running SUB=MSTR if the code does an SSI function
code 20 "Request Job ID". That will connect it to the primary JES so that
it can do things such as dynamically allocate SYSOUT.

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieaf200/rjobid.htm









--
Tony Thigpen





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