Thanks guys,

very helpful.

Peter, I have tested with LLA stopped,thought I posted that test.Still
received S106-C.
Since the problem started with CICS 5.3, I think a PMR with CICS is the
next step.

I'll run more tests today (I'm at a different client today).

Wayne



On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 3:06 AM Tom Marchant <
0000000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:30:20 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 14:59:05 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
> >
> >>Step end stats:
> >>
> >>IEF032I STEP/STEP020 /STOP  2019011.2148
> >>
> >>        CPU:     0 HR  00 MIN  00.05 SEC    SRB:     0 HR  00 MIN  00.01
> >>SEC
> >>        VIRT:  7908K  SYS:   260K  EXT:        4K  SYS:    10876K
> >>
> >>        ATB- REAL:                  3104K  SLOTS:                     0K
> >>
> >>             VIRT- ALLOC:      12M SHRD:       0M
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Look at module DFHEISUP in the load library. Is it marked RMODE(24)?
> According to your Fault Analyzer report, the module is over 7 MB and it
> seems to be loaded below the line. Your job is using only 4K above the line.
> >
> >I would suggest you open a PMR with IBM.
>
> I looked at DFHEISUP on our system. It is indeed over 7MB in size and is
> marked RMODE(24).
>
> Open a PMR with CICS. IMO, there is no excuse for such a large module
> requiring RMODE(24).
>
> --
> Tom Marchant
>
> >
> >>On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 2:52 PM Wayne Bickerdike <wayn...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> REGION=0M  and same abend with REGION=512M.
> >>>
> >>> Took an SVC dump, here's some FA information.
> >>>
> >>> JOBNAME: $SDO512M  SYSTEM ABEND: 106            S0W1      2019/01/11
> >>> 21:21:48
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> IBM Fault Analyzer Abend Job Information:
> >>>
> >>>   Abend Date. . . . . . . . : 2019/01/11
> >>>   Abend Time. . . . . . . . : 21:21:48
> >>>   System Name . . . . . . . : S0W1
> >>>   Job Type. . . . . . . . . : Batch
> >>>   Job ID. . . . . . . . . . : JOB02430
> >>>   Job Name. . . . . . . . . : $SDO512M
> >>>   Job Step Name . . . . . . : n/a
> >>>   ASID. . . . . . . . . . . : 1C
> >>>   Abend TCB Address . . . . : 007FE990
> >>>   Job Execution Class . . . : A
> >>>   Region Size . . . . . . . : 0M
> >>>   EXEC Program Name . . . . : DFHEISUP
> >>>   User ID . . . . . . . . . : BDB204
> >>>   Accounting Information. . : n/a
> >>>
> >>> Execution Environment:
> >>>
> >>>   Operating System. . . . . : z/OS V2R2M0
> >>>   Data Facility Product . . : DFSMS z/OS V2R2M0
> >>>   CPU Model . . . . . . . . : 2817
> >>>
> >>> NOTE: The execution environment for this event is no longer valid, save
> >>> areas
> >>>       and data might have subsequently been updated.  This is normally
> >>> caused
> >>>       by condition handling routine processing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Load Module Name. . . . . . : DFHEISUP
> >>>
> >>>   At Address. . . . . . . . : 00007F90
> >>>
> >>>   Load Module Length. . . . : X'7B6070'
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Machine Instruction . . . . : 0A08          SVC     8 (LOAD)
> >>>
> >>>   At Address. . . . . . . . : 007BDD70 (Module DFHEISUP offset
> X'7B5DE0')
> >>>
> >>>   AMODE . . . . . . . . . . : 31
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Additional instructions around event offset:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   Offset   Hex            Instruction
> >>>
> >>>        -2C 58C0 0010      L       R12,16
> >>>
> >>>        -28 58C0 C000      L       R12,0(,R12)
> >>>
> >>>        -24 58C0 C004      L       R12,4(,R12)
> >>>
> >>>        -20 58C0 C144      L       R12,324(,R12)
> >>>
> >>>        -1C 58C0 C004      L       R12,4(,R12)
> >>>
> >>>        -18 BFCF C020      ICM     R12,15,32(R12)
> >>>
> >>>        -14 A784 0005      BRC     8,*+10
> >>>
> >>>        -10 180C           LR      R0,R12
> >>>
> >>>         -E A7F4 007D      BRC     15,*+250
> >>>
> >>>         -A 4120 7008      LA      R2,8(,R7)
> >>>
> >>>         -6 4100 2000      LA      R0,0(,R2)
> >>>
> >>>         -2 1B11           SR      R1,R1
> >>>
> >>>   007BDD70 0A08           SVC     8        (LOAD)
> >>>
> >>>         +2 58C0 322C      L       R12,556(,R3)
> >>>
> >>>         +6 166C           OR      R6,R12
> >>>
> >>>         +8 164C           OR      R4,R12
> >>>
> >>>         +A A7F4 0071      BRC     15,*+226
> >>>
> >>>  JOBNAME: $SDO512M  SYSTEM ABEND: 106            S0W1      2019/01/11
> >>> 21:21:48
> >>>          +2 58C0 322C      L       R12,556(,R3)
> >>>
> >>>          +6 166C           OR      R6,R12
> >>>
> >>>          +8 164C           OR      R4,R12
> >>>
> >>>          +A A7F4 0071      BRC     15,*+226
> >>>
> >>>          +E A7F8 0010      LHI     R15,16
> >>>
> >>>         +12 5820 7018      L       R2,24(,R7)
> >>>
> >>>         +16 1812           LR      R1,R2
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Program Status Word (PSW) . : 078D0000 807BDD72
> >>>
> >>>  PSW Summary . . . . . . . . : Primary Space Mode, PSW Key 8, AMODE 31,
> >>> Problem
> >>>                                State
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  General Purpose Registers (AMODE: 64 31 24 , Bytes: Dec Hex ):
> >>>
> >>>    R0:  007BDA48 (Module DFHEISUP + X'7B5AB8')
> >>>
> >>>    R1:  00000000 (2,048 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>    R2:  007BDA48 (Module DFHEISUP + X'7B5AB8')
> >>>
> >>>    R3:  007BDC78 (Module DFHEISUP + X'7B5CE8')
> >>>
> >>>    R4:  00000064 (1,948 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>    R5:  00006FE8 (8,093,720 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>    R6:  007BD800 (Module DFHEISUP + X'7B5870')
> >>>
> >>>    R7:  807BDA40 (Module DFHEISUP + X'7B5AB0')
> >>>
> >>>    R8:  007AED20 (Module DFHEISUP + X'7A6D90')
> >>>
> >>>    R9:  007F8190 (32,368 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>    R10: 00000000 (2,048 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>    R11: 807BD82A (Module DFHEISUP + X'7B589A')
> >>>
> >>>    R12: 00000000 (2,048 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>    R13: 00006F50 (8,093,872 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>    R14: 807BD8FE (Module DFHEISUP + X'7B596E')
> >>>
> >>>    R15: 007BDC78 (Module DFHEISUP + X'7B5CE8')
> >>>
> >>>  Abend Code. . . . . . . . . : S106-X'C'
> >>>
> >>>  Machine Instruction . . . . : 0A0D          SVC     13 (ABEND)
> >>>    At Address. . . . . . . . : 01074DB8
> >>>    AMODE . . . . . . . . . . : 31
> >>>
> >>>  Instructions around point of failure:
> >>>
> >>>    Offset   Hex            Instruction
> >>>         -22 43C0 5078      IC      R12,120(,R5)
> >>>         -1E 185C           LR      R5,R12
> >>>         -1C 8950 0008      SLL     R5,8
> >>>         -18 16F5           OR      R15,R5
> >>>         -16 1824           LR      R2,R4
> >>>         -14 1837           LR      R3,R7
> >>>         -12 184B           LR      R4,R11
> >>>         -10 18E1           LR      R14,R1
> >>>          -E 89E0 000C      SLL     R14,12
> >>>          -A 54E0 9038      N       R14,56(,R9)
> >>>          -6 A5EA 8400      OILH    R14,X'8400'
> >>>          -2 181E           LR      R1,R14
> >>>    01074DB8 0A0D           SVC     13        (ABEND)
> >>>          +2 18FB           LR      R15,R11
> >>>          +4 180C           LR      R0,R12
> >>>          +6 181D           LR      R1,R13
> >>>          +8 58E0 02FC      L       R14,764
> >>>         +C 58D0 E248      L       R13,584(,R14)
> >>>
> >>>        +10 0DED           BASR    R14,R13
> >>>
> >>>        +12 18BF           LR      R11,R15
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Program Status Word (PSW) . : 070C1000 81074DBA
> >>>
> >>> PSW Summary . . . . . . . . : Primary Space Mode, PSW Key 0, AMODE 31,
> >>>
> >>>                               Supervisor State
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> General Purpose Registers (AMODE: 64 31 24 , Bytes: Dec Hex ):
> >>>
> >>>   R0:  0_00001F00 (Storage invalid)
> >>>
> >>>   R1:  0_84106000 (Module IGC0013{ + X'9E000')
> >>>
> >>>   R2:  0_26080021 (Storage invalid)
> >>>
> >>>   R3:  0_0000000C (2,036 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>   R4:  0_00000014 (2,028 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>   R5:  0_007FF8F0 (1,808 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>   R6:  0_7F5F7100 (1,089,280 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>   R7:  0_0000000C (2,036 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>   R8:  0_7F5F7168 (1,089,176 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>   R9:  0_010752E0 (7,456 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>   R10: 0_00000024 (2,012 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>   R11: 0_00000014 (2,028 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>   R12: 0_00000000 (2,048 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>   R13: 0_7F5F7168 (1,089,176 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>   R14: 0_84106000 (Module IGC0013{ + X'9E000')
> >>>
> >>>   R15: 0_0000000C (2,036 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Load Module Name. . . . . . : IGC0101C (In Link Pack Area)
> >>>
> >>>    At Address. . . . . . . . : 0417D000
> >>>
> >>>    Load Module Length. . . . : X'1D6F0'
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Machine Instruction . . . . : n/a
> >>>
> >>>    At Address. . . . . . . . : 0418FDF0 (Module IGC0101C offset
> X'12DF0')
> >>>
> >>>    AMODE . . . . . . . . . . : 31
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Additional instructions around event offset:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    Offset   Hex            Instruction
> >>>
> >>>    No instructions available.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  Program Status Word (PSW) . : 070C1000 8418FDF2
> >>>
> >>>  PSW Summary . . . . . . . . : Primary Space Mode, PSW Key 0, AMODE 31,
> >>>
> >>>                                Supervisor State
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  General Purpose Registers (AMODE: 64 31 24 , Bytes: Dec Hex ):
> >>>
> >>>    R0:  0032D125 (Module DFHEISUP + X'325195')
> >>>
> >>>    R1:  7F5F7DF0 (1,085,968 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>    R2:  0418FE08 (Module IGC0101C + X'12E08' - storage invalid)
> >>>
> >>>    R3:  00000000 (2,048 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>    R4:  007C5F68 (237,720 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>    R5:  7F5F7428 (1,088,472 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>    R6:  04192530 (Module IGC0101C + X'15530' - storage invalid)
> >>>
> >>>   R7:  7F5F7CF0 (1,086,224 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>   R8:  7F5F7438 (1,088,456 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>   R9:  007FC2E4 (15,644 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>   R10: 007FC258 (15,784 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>   R11: 00000000 (2,048 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>   R12: 7F5F7078 (1,089,416 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>   R13: 7F5F7078 (1,089,416 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>   R14: 8418FDE0 (Module IGC0101C + X'12DE0' - storage invalid)
> >>>   R15: 00000000 (2,048 bytes of storage addressable)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 5:56 AM Mike Schwab <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Fetch usually fails with INSUFFICIENT MEMORY.  Increase region size.
> >>>> If you don't have one, look at the memory stats at the end of step
> >>>> messages to see what was used and double. Otherwise suggest REGION=4M,
> >>>> 5M, 6M, 7M, 20M, 32M, 64M, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 12:26 PM Peter Relson <rel...@us.ibm.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I don't think the abend 106 that is discussed is part of the
> original
> >>>> > discussion, so I guessed that it could do with a different thread
> name.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The abend 106 itself is not helpful in finding out what is going on
> >>>> > because that is just the generic result of a preceding problem which
> >>>> > likely had message(s) and/or abend(s).
> >>>> >
> >>>> > It appears that what Wayne posted was truncated.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > IEW4000I FETCH FOR MODULE CEEBINIT FROM DDNAME *VLF*    FAILED
> BECAUSE
> >>>> > INSUFFICI
> >>>> > CSV031I LIBRARY ACCESS FAILED FOR MODULE CEEBINIT, RETURN CODE 24,
> >>>> REASON
> >>>> > CODE 2
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Can we get the complete information? It probably doesn't matter
> much.
> >>>> The
> >>>> > missing part of IEW4000I is not going to help, but possibly having
> the
> >>>> > rest of CSV031I (including the complete reason code) would.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > In at least one case, Fetch processing did a getmain, and the
> getmain
> >>>> > failed.  Why? Because the application needed more region than was
> >>>> defined,
> >>>> > probably.
> >>>> > I'd suggest capturing a dump on the IEW4000I message issued by
> nucleus
> >>>> > module CSVLLTCH. That's what IBM service will likely ask for.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The message can also occur because of a problem with doing the
> >>>> relocation
> >>>> > processing (I'm not sure why that lands with a message about
> >>>> insufficient
> >>>> > storage).
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Peter Relson
> >>>> > z/OS Core Technology Design
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA
> >>>> Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all?
> >>>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Wayne V. Bickerdike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Wayne V. Bickerdike
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