Wayne, you need to free up region below the line. We run with an 11M PVT below 
the line.    Here is our memory map from tasid.

        0 | PSA .............. 8K |     1FFF  
     2000 | System .......... 16K |     5FFF  
     6000 | PVT .......... 11240K |   AFFFFF  
   B00000 | CSA ........... 2276K |   D38FFF  
   D39000 | PLPA .......... 1380K |   E91FFF  
   E92000 | SQA ........... 1284K |   FD2FFF  
   FD3000 | R/W Nucleus ..... 43K |   FDD877  
   FDE000 | R/O Nucleus .. 13483K |  1D08B2F  
  1D09000 | Ext R/W Nuc .... 320K |  1D58FFF  
  1D59000 | Ext SQA ...... 90304K |  7588FFF  
  7589000 | Ext PLPA ..... 65844K |  B5D5FFF  
  B5D6000 | Ext CSA ..... 389288K | 231FFFFF  
 23200000 | Ext PVT .... 1521664K | 7FFFFFFF  

One way we make a bunch of room below the line is to move little used ISPF 
modules out of LPA in LINKLIST.


++VER(Z038) FMID(HIF7R02).                                 
++MOVE (FLM$CPI ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMB    ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMCPCS ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMDDL  ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMIO24 ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMLPCBL) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMLPFRT) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMLPGEN) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMLSS  ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMP    ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMPTC  ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMRA   ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMRC   ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMRTLIB) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMS$LNK) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMS$SRV) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMS7C  ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMTBMAP) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMTCCPS) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMTCIDS) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMTCLGT) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMTCPC ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMTCPP ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMTCVER) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMTMMI ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMTMSI ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMTXFER) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMUM   ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMVCSUP) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMXE   ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (FLMXI   ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD. 
++MOVE (ISRSUPC ) SYSLIB(SISPLPA) TOSYSLIB(SISPLOAD) LMOD.

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Mark Zeldens excellent IPLINFO shows:

The real storage size at IPL time was 2048M.
The private area size <16M is 8192K.
The private area size >16M is 1628M.
The CSA size <16M is 4812K.
The CSA size >16M is 300652K.
The SQA size <16M is 1248K.
The SQA size >16M is 15792K.
The maximum V=R region size is 280K.
The default V=R region size is 140K.
The maximum V=V region size is 8168K.

Based on this:
CVTGDA   = C2d(Storage(D2x(CVT + 560),4))    /* point to GDA         */
GDACSA   = C2d(Storage(D2x(CVTGDA + 108),4)) /* start of CSA addr    */
GDACSAH  = D2x(GDACSA)                       /* display in hex       */
CSAEND   = (GDACSASZ*1024) + GDACSA - 1      /* end of CSA           */
CSAEND   = D2x(CSAEND)                       /* display in hex       */

So CSA <16M is too small.



On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 9:20 AM Tom Marchant < 
0000000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 08:57:39 -0500, Peter Relson wrote:
>
> ><snip>
> >there is no excuse for such a large module requiring RMODE(24).
> ></snip>
> >
> >Sure there is -- if it doesn't cause a problem. But here it does 
> >cause a problem.
> >So the real question is? what's the problem?
>
> DFHEISUP has been getting larger with each new release of CICS. 
> Looking at the libraries on our system, I see:
>
> CTS 5.4 007D1410
> CTS 5.3 007B6070
> CTS 5.2 0078C7D0
> CTS 5.1 00772608
> CTS 4.2 00752958
> CTS 4.1 00719EA8
>
> Wayne's Fault Analyzer output showed the size of that module that had 
> been loaded to be X'7B6070'.
> The IEF032I message in his job output showed below the line system 
> usage to be 260K and private is 7908K.
> That doesn't leave much room if he only has 8M of below the line 
> private area.
>
> It is not surprising to me that he has found that it fails more often 
> with newer releases of CICS.
>
> I am a little surprised though if all three of the places that he has 
> run this have only 8M of below the line private.
>
> --
> Tom Marchant
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