Phil,

My issue with cloud computing and multiple z/OS it’s not structured
financially for small ISVs like us.
Cost is a big issue with us..

Scott

On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 1:22 PM Phil Smith III <[email protected]> wrote:

> OK, so what do we mean by "cloud"? What *customers* seem to mean is "a
> compute platform where I can run my stuff but not have to deal with buying
> hardware and racking and cabling it and in general all the work of running
> a data center". By which definition, of course, traditional timesharing
> fits.
>
>
>
> For x86, this is currently AWS and Google Cloud Platform and Microsoft
> Azure (and not HPE Helion). For z, it's more like the IBM Dallas developer
> systems, where you can rent a virtual machine that runs z/OS or z/VM or
> Linux, and then do whatever you want with that OS.
>
>
>
> My conclusion is that the vendors (and IBM) who are saying "IBM Z and
> cloud" are not being honest with themselves. Calling a tail a leg doesn't
> make it one, and saying "We like IBM Z and it *can* do cloud-ish stuff,
> therefore we will say it's good for cloud" is not a rational (much less
> convincing) argument.
>
>
>
> Again, I'd love to be proven wrong. But the relative silence on this
> thread tends to suggest that nobody else buys it either. Well, nobody
> besides Ginny & Co.
>
>
>
> .phsiii
>
>
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