Phil,All: Exact question this am during a daily meeting. We looked zConnect but looked like was expensive to develope a product around, we are looking At Zosmf...kinda interesting, living proof you teach an old dawg new tricks.
Scott On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 5:54 AM R.S. <[email protected]> wrote: > W dniu 2018-09-14 o 03:38, Phil Smith III pisze: > > Well, I appreciate the answers thus far, but they're vague and > platitudinous. > > > > > > > > Sure, an application on Z should often stay on Z, but that's not what > anybody means by "cloud". In fact, given that the vast majority of > application environments are not on Z, saying "stay on <the platform>" is, > if anything, an argument that Z is *not* a good cloud platform. > > > > > > > > Resource sharing/virtualization are good, but ISTR one or two companies > that are managing to do a bit of that on Intel (I think they're called > Amazon and Google and what's that other startup-oh yeah, Microsoft); not > compelling, sorry. Yes, z/VM is the best virtualization platform in a lot > of ways. But again, that ain't where the action is, and calling a tail a > leg doesn't make it one. > > > > > > > > As for cost of instructions-TR/TRT and friends are also way cool. > Surprise, that isn't where applications spend most of their time. > > > > > > > > Looking forward to more convincing arguments. > > Convicing? Whom to convince? Seriously, are we talking about rational > arguments or just convincing arguments? > I see no hope for mainframe when talking about "convincing" arguments. > Sorry, every "airline magazine" article or opinion claims it's old, > obsolete, and so on. Nevermind what is true. > > Regarding cloud - this is similar story, much less rational arguments a > lot of "convincing" ones. There is no single definition of cloud, but I > woudl say that EDS in the beginnings was kind of cloud - you compute on > someone else's computer. IT as a service. > Of course some people narrow the vision of cloud to Windows and M$ > subsystems (MSSQL, etc.), maybe also Linux with popular open-source > things lika Apache, mySQL, etc. So, there is no place for other > platforms. Why? Because nobody mentioned it. However some companies do > use mainframe applications and they can hear from cloud provider "sorry, > we don't have such thing". > > Regarding Amazon and Google - yes, they don't use mainframes. However > their business (especially Google) is different than yours. Not everyone > need oer 1 million PC machines spread across the world. Cheap machines > with no redundant features. That's why things like disk arrays, remote > copy services or DR data rooms are still in sale. > > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka > Lodz, Poland > > > > > ====================================================================== > > Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: > > - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), > - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub > zapisałeś na dysku). > Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może > wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia > (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, > narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. > > mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warsza > <https://maps.google.com/?q=z+siedzib%C4%85+w+Warsza&entry=gmail&source=g>wie, > ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: [email protected]. > Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru > Sądowego, KRS 0000025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w > całości) według stanu na 01.01.2018 r. wynosi 169.248.488 złotych. > > If you are not the addressee of this message: > > - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), > - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have > printed out or saved). > This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used > exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who > disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar > action, violates the law and may be penalised. > > mBank S.A. with its registered office in War > <https://maps.google.com/?q=istered+office+in+War&entry=gmail&source=g>saw, > ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: [email protected]. > District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of > the National Court Register, KRS 0000025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully > paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169,248,488 as at 1 January 2018. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- Scott Ford IDMWORKS z/OS Development ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
