OK, I see now. JES is storing the post-conversion JCL in the spool dataset that SDSF accesses with SJ.
I imagine that there are cross-system and MAS reasons for that rather than presenting the original JCL as symbols can change with time, date or local system environment. The system you "SJ" on may not be the system where the job was originally submitted from. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of ITschak Mugzach Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 11:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 2 possible RFE --- ISPF & SDSF. The issue is applicable for jcl & instream data. The submitted JCL may include variables which after substitution may occupy larger space. SJ does not substitute. It uses the post substitution version of the JCL. ITschak On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:34 AM, Rob Scott <rsc...@rocketsoftware.com> wrote: > >> On occasion I have been sorely vexed when I hastily issued SUBMIT > >> from > the SJ panel and discovered my sysins truncated to 80 characters. > SUBMIT from SJ should preserve the attributes of the original job on resubmit. > > I must admit to being slightly puzzled by this statement. > > JCL is, by definition, a sequence of 80-byte card images and any > instream SYSIN will be taken as a sequence of 80-byte characters. > > Maybe I am missing something here - please let me know if so. > > > The SDSF "SJ" command acts by allocating the "special" JES dataset > name for the original JCL and then uses ISPF "EDIF" (without a command > routine) to display the contents. > > The subsequent "SUBMIT" is not under SDSF control - it is the same > "SUBMIT" command used by ISPF. > > > As far as the "submit as an SDSF action from NP" idea, the best I > could advise at the moment would be to use the SDSF REXX interface and the "%" > prefix in the NP column input to execute it. > > Rob Scott > Rocket Software > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2018 6:06 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: 2 possible RFE --- ISPF & SDSF. > > On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 07:03:21 -0500, John McKown wrote: > > > >1) I think it would be nice if I could do a "SUBMIT" command in ISPF > >option > >2 when I have a list of UNIX files displayed, rather than members of > >a > PDS. > >Yes, I know that I could do an RYO REXX exec. I just don't wanna {grin}. > > > Yes. Likewise for 3.17. > > >2) In SDSF, I quite often want to resubmit a job, as is, which is in > >the output queue. At present, I do an SJ on it, followed by > >"submit;end;;". I would also like a SDSF line command, preferably > >named SUBMIT, which would do this for me. Again, RYO is a possibility, but > >... . > > > Yes. And sometimes finding the job ID can be tricky. Pedro Vera > suggested screen scraping. Crude but effective. > > On occasion I have been sorely vexed when I hastily issued SUBMIT from > the SJ panel and discovered my sysins truncated to 80 characters. > SUBMIT from SJ should preserve the attributes of the original job on resubmit. > > -- gil > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ================================ Rocket Software, Inc. and > subsidiaries ■ 77 Fourth Avenue, Waltham MA > 02451 ■ Main Office Toll Free Number: +1 855.577.4323 Contact Customer > Support: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmy.ro > cketsoftware.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7CRScott%40ROCKETSOFTWARE.COM%7C6d52a > 64e9c7a4b9fa74208d5d7605ba1%7C79544c1eed224879a082b67a9a672aae%7C0%7C0 > %7C636651731237844746&sdata=Rqo6fO5u29%2FgAL9zVLgi7b49PpAumBAGP8lSL3xi > f58%3D&reserved=0 > RocketCommunity/RCEmailSupport > Unsubscribe from Marketing Messages/Manage Your Subscription > Preferences - > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ro > cketsoftware.com%2Fmanage-your-email-preferences&data=02%7C01%7CRScott > %40ROCKETSOFTWARE.COM%7C6d52a64e9c7a4b9fa74208d5d7605ba1%7C79544c1eed2 > 24879a082b67a9a672aae%7C0%7C0%7C636651731237844746&sdata=TNutTRQ70bHf2 > iip2UIVYqK49%2FkJC7rC%2BEkXPwgS6E8%3D&reserved=0 > Privacy Policy - > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ro > cketsoftware.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7CRScott%40ROCKETSOFTWARE.COM%7C6d52a > 64e9c7a4b9fa74208d5d7605ba1%7C79544c1eed224879a082b67a9a672aae%7C0%7C0 > %7C636651731237844746&sdata=ifzSB3TuUs47OVs%2Fd1AqgVnAU236Mke2SECIbUeV > v6Q%3D&reserved=0 > company/legal/privacy-policy > ================================ > > This communication and any attachments may contain confidential > information of Rocket Software, Inc. 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