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On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:46 PM, John McKown <john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Edward Gould <edgould1...@comcast.net> > wrote: > >> > On Jun 3, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Rob Schramm <rob.schr...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Ed, >> > >> > Typically I would agree. Most of my experience with Compuware in the >> past >> > has been about high prices and little negotiating. But has been a >> > Mainframe cheerleader with the Devops stuff. Always seems on message. I >> > have been enjoying his posts for a while. Looking forward to working on >> a >> > project that is or wants to use some of the Compuware "new stuff" for >> > development. >> > >> > Until then *rah* *rah* *rah* go team! >> > >> > And my nod to the hash taggers.. >> > >> > #kickinthepants #gracehopperlives #cobol3k # >> cantlearncobolgetoutofthekitchen >> > >> > Rob Schramm >> >> Rob, >> >> I have seen so many companies screwed by Compuware, their name is dirt as >> well as CA. They have literally poisoned the well for ever after, to me. >> See my reply earlier. for my 10 points. >> >> Ken P: And right they should be questioned. Between CA and Compuware they >> have essentially bled the IT community and have suckled on them far to >> long. I have lost track of the promises that CA and Compare have made in >> the past and have been screwed every time, either by pricing or one >> specific case causing a migration of an OS due to their lack of keeping up >> with year old technology. In CA’s case I had to change one of their modules >> so it would work with two year old technology IBM code. They wanted my code >> but told them to go scratch as they delayed the migration. In CA’s case >> they bought two vendors and their support for the one product went to hell. >> We had to find a replacement product and pay for something that CA >> orphaned. Another CASE with CA, I have been called in at all hours to >> support some of their crappy code. I do not like staying up all night in >> support of a vendor that can’t get its ducks in a line (one product talking >> to another product). We were *NOT* bleeding edge as I said above at least a >> year behind (sometimes more). As I said vendors lie and the system >> programmer gets caught in the mess. I HATE WORKING all night. >> >> Ed >> >> > I, personally, don't much against either CA or Compuware. I do know that, > especially in CA's case, they often acquire software and put it in the > "cash cow" status. That is, barely maintain it while increasing the > maintenance fees. Or, in some cases, making it "functionally stabilized", > but still requiring a "run time" license. I guess that we're in a strange > state because our Compuware contract was for a permanent execution license. > So we are running AbendAid "for free" so long as we stay on z/OS 1.12. The > same is true of the little BMC software (Mainview / CMF) that we use. > > I have actually considered whether it would be "interesting" to write some > sort of "job scheduler" on z/OS. I don't have too much trouble with > figuring out the internals to submit & track jobs. The problem is the UX & > UI design. I fear my approach would be "by a programmer, for other > programmers". > > -- > > Prof: So the American government went to IBM to come up with a data > encryption standard and they came up with ... > > Student: EBCDIC! > > Maranatha! <>< > John McKown > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN