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On Apr 3, 2016 20:53, "David Crayford" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 4/04/2016 7:41 AM, John McKown wrote:
>>
>>
>> ​I'm not an application programmer. But I can just imagine the looks of
>> astonishment and the "talk", if I were to write a COBOL program which
does
>> a SORT verb with INPUT PROCEDURE IS and OUTPUT PROCEDURE IS which only
did
>> a SORT FIELDS=COPY operation. Even more astonishment if I coded the
INCLUDE
>> or EXCLUDE to subset my data in addition to, or instead of, using COBOL
>> code. I don't know if such coding would pass the majority of the "peer
>> review" type processes. I'd love to try. Especially if I were smart
enough
>> to do so initially and keep the output listing. Then allow code review to
>> force me to use normal COBOL methods. And then show the differences,
>> assuming the SORT method actually is superior. Of course, I'd better know
>> my management. I was at one shop (sysprog) where my boss (sysprog +
>> manager) did that with a major application that would max the 3083 (long
>> ago). Basically he proved it was due a flawed design. Unfortunately, that
>> cost him him his job because the design was actually done by the head of
>> the company (software development company).
>>
>
> I'm sure the application folks would thinks you're a crazy, performance
obsessed systems programmer and should go back to your cave!

​And they'd be right! And they do, sometimes. But, my management would
adore it __IF IT COULD BE DONE RELIABLY BY THE REGULAR PROGRAMMERS__. Why?
Because more than __anything__ else at present, they want to decrease the
cost of I.T. (They consider it a "money pit" and seem to emotionally
consider it to be an "unnecessary" expense which is not really related to
the core business) . So if a technique, if consistently applied, would
allow them to reduce the MSU cap, thus reducing our software bill, they
want it to be done.​ I was typing more, but really got way too sarcastic.

> FileManager was developed at the IBM APC labs in Perth. I worked with one
of the lead developers on that product and they try to utilize DFSORT as
much as possible.

> There must be significant man years of work optimizing the I/O in DFSORT.
It's sensible to try and leverage that. In the case of Andrews I/O bound
product he could possibly
> significantly accelerate the throughput if he could somehow hook into
sort. Is it a big deal that DFSORT doesn't run on a zIIP when most of the
workload is I/O bound?
>
>
http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSXJAV_13.1.0/com.ibm.filemanager.doc_13.1/base/funtips.htm
>
> LOL! IBM had to write a FASTREXX subset because standard REXX was a dog!
>
>

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