On Jul 25, 2014, at 1:37 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
How is the Z platform served by making "how to attend your first
SHARE" a more arcane question than "how to attain the highest rank
of Freemasonry"?
There should be a big banner on the Web site "welcome to YOUR first
SHARE."
Agreed there should be a how to section and everything spelled out in
that section.
I know it has been dismissed here ad nauseum but I find this just
one more example of SHARE "exclusiveness." "We are full members of
the SHARE club and you're not, ha ha."
I am not sure if its exclusiveness or SHARE (and the company that
does its web site) I think it is just poor thoughtfulness on SHARE's
part. When (5+ years ago) the SHARE web site was reasonable that is I
could find things and d/l PDF's quite easily. Somewhere along the
line the company that does the web site changed everything and it was
unbelievably bad and they could not make up their mind if the web
site was open to all or only SHARE members .
They have redesigned it (yet again) and its better now for d/ling
papers (Thats all I use it for) searching is still iffy and usually
worthless unless you know the session #. IMO they could do better
with search engine.
I looked at the section (long time ago) for joining and thought the
information was scattered and unorganized.
I live in Chicago and don't have a problem calling them but I am not
a good example. Someone living in Europe might run up a nice phone
bill trying to find information that should reasonably easy (IMO) to
find and oh yes don't forget the time differences.
SHARE probably should make it easier to find joining information.
Ed
I think the company orientation of SHARE is an idea whose time has
passed. What is the vision here? That corporations will go "by gum,
we ought to join SHARE" and then its employees will start showing
up? People make things happen. SHARE should welcome individuals,
and then encourage them to go back and lobby their organizations to
send more people, and then say "you know, you could save money if
you joined as an organization." Furthermore there is a lot of job
mobility, a lot of one-man Z software companies, lots of individual
freelancers -- the overarching company orientation just does not
make sense any more.
Let the flames begin.
Charles
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 6:31 PM
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Subject: Re: Beginners question about SHARE
But, somewhat surprisingly neither the SHARE web pages on "Becoming
a Member" nor the page at the "Join SHARE" link from that page lay
out the basic requirements for becoming a member or the potential
annual costs involved with membership. Perhaps this is present
somewhere in the process of actually filling out an on-line
membership request, but I would think a potential member wouldn't
be inclined to proceed down that route unless corporate
authorization had been granted to proceed -- and the first question
my boss asked when we first wanted to join SHARE was the cost of
membership. That was back in pre-web days, and the hard copy
information we had from SHARE at the time made costs much easier to
determine than the current web site.
It took me a while to find most of that information on the web
site, and I knew what I was looking for. This is pretty basic
stuff that a prospective member organization would want to know up
front to evaluate what SHARE would do to their budget. They
shouldn't have to research and understand the implications of
lengthy Policy and By Laws documents on the web site to figure it out.
Obviously if you could establish direct contact with someone at
SHARE they could no doubt immediately provide that information, but
as others have pointed out there may reasons that is difficult.
The web site could certainly stand some improvements in this area.
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