> Wouldn't everyone ?
> Sometimes it's hard convincing people (management/ops) a SAD is needed, but a 
> better description in the FM(s) would help knowing what to look for.
I agree. In my last job it took my being able to diagnose a bad problem from an 
sadump to get the manager to allow me to take an sadump on a more important 
system. I suggest another SHARE session showing how fast an sadump can be taken 
these days, if it is set up right. Throw in pointers how to convince management 
to allow an sadump. But also think of the smaller installations that cannot use 
HiperPAV.

I had a very bad case of envy when I saw that one customer routinely takes 
sadumps of a 15GB real lpar that only takes 4 minutes (and they had pretty much 
everything in except storage above the bar). That sadump resulted in a 'meager' 
63000cyl sadump data set. And they weren't even using autoipl and/or fully 
automated sadump (as in: the operator was still confirming all the options and 
typing in the title, contributing to the 4 minutes.) I advised them to make 
their procedure fully automated and to use autoipl to speed things up even 
further. :-)

Barbara

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