Yup. ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mitch [[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: JCL
Rich: DSSI? Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Rich Way <[email protected]> To: IBM-MAIN <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Nov 8, 2013 2:22 pm Subject: Re: JCL I remember that clearly, and I believe Mitch and I are referring to the same ISV I know we both worked there, but at different times). We had a developer ncounter behavior in the JCL that differed from the documentation, and he eported it to IBM. IBM fixed it so that it agreed with the doc, but from that oint on we had to have a setting in our configuration file for customers to ell us whether they had that fix on or not (we weren't installed with SMP/E). he lesson was "for Pete's sake, don't REPORT the discrepancy or we'll have to upport it BOTH ways!". Rich Way -----Original Message----- rom: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf f Mitch ent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:55 PM o: [email protected] ubject: Re: JCL Paul: You are exactly right. That is what IBM would tell us as a vendor, but then we ad to turn around and support our customers because it was an "undocumented eature" of the IBM JCL processing environment. Made new releases of both our roduct and operating systems upgrades from IBM all the more interesting when ll of a sudden we were not in synch again. I recall a couple of instances here one of these features worked, then IBM made a change and it didn't work, hen a couple of years later, it was back. .....always fun. Mitch -----Original Message----- rom: Paul Gilmartin <[email protected]> o: IBM-MAIN <[email protected]> ent: Fri, Nov 8, 2013 1:27 pm ubject: Re: JCL n Fri, 8 Nov 2013 16:07:37 -0500, Mitch wrote: I have done support for automated JCL management tools for the past 30+ years nd t is amazing the number of "features" in JCL that are not documented in the BM CL reference manual. It was difficult dealing with clients who would tell s hey had coded something in their JCL, yet there was no mention of it being a pability. .....made it difficult sometimes to keep up! believe IBM's rule (stated in one or more cases) is that if it ain't ocumented ain't supported; it ain't predictable; it ain't stable; and it ain't uaranteed stay how it is in the next release, PUT, or even PTF. f course the customer is always right, and even IBM listens to sufficiently ig ustomers. - gil --------------------------------------------------------------------- r IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --------------------------------------------------------------------- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
