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Of Pommier, Rex
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2025 12:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] RES: Mainframe physical tape backup

We do similar with IBM TS devices.  Push data to virtual tape on TS7770, it 
passes thru to a pair of tapes in a TS4500.  These tapes can be taken offsite 
at will, but can't be read directly by the z, they need to restore to another 
TS77xx box to be accessible to the z.  All encrypted.  All compressed as well, 
no dedup happening.  

Rex

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Bodra - Pessoal
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2025 12:23 PM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] RES: Mainframe physical tape backup

Peter,

IBM TS4500 won´t attach to any Z systems. It can have a lot of TS1170 (aka 
3592-EH8) inside, but just for TS7770/80 data destage from Hydra. IBM stopped 
to produce tape controller with 3592-C07 some years ago. Since this, mainframe 
data is available in physical cartridge passthru TS7770/80. This was a 
marketing/sales orientation to force customers to buy tapes (TS4500 and Tape 
drives (3592-EH8) and storage (TS7770/80) if you want data stored in tape 
cartridge.

Since we use Luminex MVTe solution, we mapped disk storage (via FC) to our 
backup server and uses LTO7 to backup array, then sent to offsite storage. Data 
inside array is compressed and eventually cryptographed (optional feature), not 
usable directly by mainframe since we need to restore array to access data via 
Luminex MVTe. This is a solution for a catastrophic event in Data Center. 

Maybe this can work for you.  


Carlos Bodra
IBM zEnterprise Certified
São Paulo – SP – Brazil


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De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Em nome de Peter 
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 24 de janeiro de 2025 12:41
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Assunto: Mainframe physical tape backup

Hello

My organization has asked me to explore about the vendors who are still 
providing external physical tape backup.

How many companies are there who are making physical tape Solutions and I would 
like to discuss with them.

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Regards
Peter

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