A scripting language that doesn't even let you say "If this command fails, 
stop" is a very stupid language, one that I'd be astonished even existed. OK, 
not astonished, just disappointed...

Anyone know of one?

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To complement: MS-DOS .bat had both conditional logic (errorlevel) and loop 
(for) I can't remember dates, but AFAIR conditional logic was introduced with 
MS-DOS v6.00 and probably the loop already was there.
For sure I was using the loops and conditionals on Win95. Does it qualify as 
MS-DOS? Actually I don't care. ;-)

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Radoslaw Skorupka
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W dniu 12.11.2024 o 15:33, Rick Troth pisze:
> MS-DOS batch does have conditional logic.
>
> I was going to chime in that a "programming language" must have at 
> least that: conditional logic.
> Phil initially asked if looping is required, but conditional logic 
> along with branching quickly gives us looping.
>
> IT MAY BE that to qualify as a "scripting language" does not require 
> conditional logic.
> Until this thought, I would have considered any scripting language to 
> also be a "programming language".
> As it is, all scripting languages that I know of (including CLIST) are 
> also programming languages.
>
>
> -- R; <><
>
>
>
> On 11/11/24 2:13 PM, Phil Smith III wrote:
>> I don't remember either, but I do remember that Relay had "Beyond 
>> .bat", a .bat-like language that did a lot more, used for Relay/Gold 
>> emulator scripting. That suggests that it was pretty weak. Doesn't 
>> mean anything you said isn't right, of course. (And I'm NOT sorry 
>> that I don't remember those details--best forgotten!)
>>
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>> Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
>> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2024 2:11 PM
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>> Subject: Re: What is a "programming language"? Was:: Modifying JCL on 
>> the fly
>>
>> My recollection is that BAT had conditional logic since the original 
>> PC-DOS; I don't recall what it was like in CP/M. CLIST, OTOH, became 
>> a programming language in OS/VS3 3.8,  as I recall. I may check 
>> bitsavers on that last.
>>

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