Joel Ewing wrote, in part, on the original thread:
> There are many such solutions to get around the fact that JCL is not a
>programming language and is static at execution time.
So (and yes, I realize that's an AND): is "static at execution time" a
disqualifier in the Am I A Programming Language sweepstakes?
While this is academic, I'm actually seriously interested in this. And of
course maybe it's unanswerable in any meaningful, definitive way!
Almost makes me wish I had a CS degree. OK, not really.
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Subject: Re: What is a "programming language"? Was:: Modifying JCL on the fly
I've thought about this question ("can JCL be considered a programming
language?") for some years. I usually include it in my list of languages, but
I almost always add "sort of". Still, during my most recent job interview, my
potential boss definitely agreed with me: It counts.
So did it count only after it had IF statements? But no, the COND parm
qualifies as a sort of IF, doesn't it?
JCL is very much like PC-DOS' batch language, which originally was just a
scripting tool ("run this program, now run this program..."); I think we mostly
call .bat a "language" too. Not sure what if anything that proves.
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Phil Smith III
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First, I'm not disagreeing with you here. But this does make me wonder one more
time, as I have in the past: "Just what IS required for something to be a
'programming language'"?
Does it have to have loops? Variables? A compiler (I'd say "no, or various
scripting languages might not qualify", and I don't think anyone would buy
that)? Does HTML qualify? It has the L-word but that doesn't prove anything.
Etc. I know people who think JCL does count. Can we prove them right or wrong
by some objective definition?
Thoughts?
--- Radoslaw Skorupka wrote, in part:
>JCL is *not* a programming language.
>JCL "piece of code" is called job, not program.
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