I think you're both dreaming.  If you wrote that program on your own time and 
then sold it to the customer, you could sell it on whatever terms you and they 
could agree on, including residuals if that's what you (and they) want.  If 
they paid you to write it, then it's theirs, that's all.

...Unless, as has been pointed out, you manage to make residuals a condition of 
your employment.  If you think you can get your employer to agree to pay you 
for your time and then pay you again when the program runs, well, feel free to 
demand that.  I'll watch.

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Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313

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-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Wayne Bickerdike
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2023 15:08

When a bank runs an EFTPOS transaction, a fee is charged, all thanks to some 
code. When they run a mortgage amortization program, a debit occurs on  a 
periodic basis. The whole system of direct debits generates a transfer of funds 
from a customer to the code executor...

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Dave Beagle
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2023 15:07

Incorrect. Every time a program of mine ran, the company saved money and the 
executives got paid bonuses or salaries (often both) for my work.

--- On Sunday, December 3, 2023, 3:01 PM, Bob Bridges <robhbrid...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
Interesting analogy.  But surely there's one obvious difference:  When an 
entertainment program runs, someone gets paid, and residuals mean whoever gets 
paid (by subscribers, say) has to share the receipts with the writers.  But 
when a company runs a program they own, they don't receive any money for it; 
it's just work getting done.

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Dave Beagle
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2023 14:17

I always thought this was something a union for IT workers would ask for in a 
contract. Why should actors get residuals every time a show runs and not the 
programmers every time their program runs? Written programs are every bit 
intellectual property as a TV program.

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