I've never coded it!

So forgot about it.


We were just happy to get JCLLIB at all, JES proclibs were a pain.  What was 
that, /*JOBPARM P=xxxx, where the concatenation could only be changed by the 
systems people, because it is was in the PROC00 member in the JES parms library?

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Hi Michael,
What about //JOBLIB? ... That is not in any Step.

Regards,
David

On 2023-08-31 15:16, Schmitt, Michael wrote:
> It they had used DD, imagine all the customer code that would break that 
> parses JCL looking for DDs, and never expects to see a DD outside of a step. 
> And all the code that *edits* DDs would have to say "except if PROCLIB". And 
> you wouldn't be able to *have* a DD named PROCLIB. And certain code would 
> break that currently *creates* a DD named PROCLIB from the proc concatenation.
>
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> W dniu 31.08.2023 o 19:48, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 10:39:34 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote:
>>> I thought ORDER= was done because you can code more than one dataset.
>>>
>> DD concatenation should have sufficed for that.
> DD concatenation is better, because it may contain more entries. Yes,
> ORDER parameter can be continued in next line, but it is much more error
> prone than regular DD set.
> DD is also better, because it can describe non-catalogued PDS(E)s.
>
> I suspect the JCLLIB in that form was a way to force catalog as a must.
> AFAIK it was introduced in MVS 4.1 along with IF/THEN/ELSE statements.
> And TIME=NOLIMIT (not 1440).
> Or maybe it was INCLUDE?
>
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