> On Jun 27, 2023, at 6:43 AM, rpinion865 
> <0000042a019916dd-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> Remember the days when you could purchase mainframe software?  In 1987  we 
> had UCC-1, UCC-7, and UCC-11.  And we had just gotten ACF2, which had just 
> been acquired by Uccel.  The instructional material at the ACF2 class still 
> had SKK printed on it.  Then CA came along and bought Uccel, within a very 
> short time of the Uccel acquisition of ACF2.  That's when they started 
> offering their Unipacks to replace the original Uccel purchase contracts.  
> 
> In my humble opinion, that's where mainframe software pricing took a turn for 
> the worse. 
> 
> 
> ————————————SNIP—————————————————————————
I used to (50+) years ago worked in a downtown of a large mid west city.

Several times a year the sysprogs would get together at a SHARE/GUIDE  and with 
no vendor around the true stories would come out.

Having said that and the time span involved (40 years) One of the companies 
upgraded the CPU on one of their systems. IIRC it wasn’t drastic but I think it 
was one model number, They were a large DB2 user, They received a bill from the 
DB2 vendor (not IBM) for around 1 MILLION dollars, That was sticker shock. 
About 6 months later another vendor sent them a bill for 2 Million dollars. The 
two vendors are still around today. Then the race started to the bottom of the 
river. The second vendor was CA (sorry I was never a DB2 person as I do not 
recall the name of the vendor. IMO, CA2 night was quite at the front end of 
over charging. Those two vendors started the death nell. Can anyone remember 
the major DB2 player was?. BTW the company that owned the CPU moved to the 
suburbs and has been on the slow march to death ever since.
BTW at one time we had quite a few UCC products and the support  we got from 
them did not match the software price. We should have ditched them but I think 
the company I worked for was maybe trying to sell off the division and wanted 
to keep the costs down so as not to scare any buyers away, it was sold off, but 
not for another 20 or so years.

Minor story line here and my memory is iffy here. A person that used to work in 
my department founded(?) the DB2 company and was a multi-millionaire a few 
years after he left the company where we worked. I think that I may have been 
hired to replace him.

Ed

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