Mainframe s/w giants may continue today's practice, but as a h/w provider, IBM have really got to up their game. If anyone has seen the hardware coming out of AMD and NVIDIA, they're wild... w.i.l.d. And without even seeing the TCO of an IBM vs AMD/NVIDIA solution, it's safe to say you get far more out of the latter. Having said that, disruption in software pricing would be very, very welcome. At least transparency, rather than what's-he-wearing-based pricing. In general news, IBM announced they're going to aquire Apptio. Could pricing get better or worse? :)
- KB ------- Original Message ------- On Tuesday, June 27th, 2023 at 4:52 PM, Jack Zukt <jzuk...@gmail.com> wrote: > A long time ago, when the only computers available were mainframes, IBM and > ISV pricing strategy may have made a lot of sense. > When I first started working on IT, four decades ago, around here there > were a few dozen of places running IBM MVS, VSE and VM. > Today, after bank and insurance consolidation, plus outsourcing, there are > very, very few remaining. And where before you could only rely on big iron > to run your loads, today there are several much cheaper alternatives being > aggressively offered. > It seems to me that IBM is not concerned with the smaller clients. If you > cannot pay the big bucks then, by all means, take your business elsewhere. > Those clients that need multiple LPARs on multiple boxes, probably will > continue with IBM for the foreseeable future. The others will give up due > to the price. > It is a suicidal strategy as those giving up today will pave the way for > the bigger ones to get out in the future. > Regards > Jack > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 06:51 Neil O'Connor ver.z...@outlook.com wrote: > > > I used z/OSMF on a z13s from 2018 till the end of 2022. Since then it's on > > a z15 T02. I have not found performance to be an issue. It was really bad > > in the early days before it exploited Liberty Profile, but much better > > after that. > > > > Neil. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf > > Of Brian Westerman > > Sent: Tuesday, 27 June 2023 14:48 > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: z/OSMF > > > > I manage 3 sites that each have a z13s with no specialty processors, they > > were deemed unnecessary at the time of the purchase, and at the time IBM > > didn't disclose that shortly afterwards they would be shifting to z/OSMF > > which all but locks them out of installing the next release. > > > > Possibly IBM should not sell processors that are under powered for the > > mandatory processes, or possibly not force sites to upgrade the processor > > they purchased jsut because IBM has decided that z/OSMF is "easier" than > > Serverpac. > > > > It would have been smarter for IBM to keep z/OSMF based installation > > optional until the z13s was no longer a supported processor. > > > > Brian > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email > > to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
