thanks Mike, that is what the team is suggesting, hopefully they will make a decision before the z15 is EOL :(

historically that's how long it takes leadership to act

Carmen

On 8/18/2022 11:31 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
Ask them for a price quote on a used z15.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2022, 14:53 Carmen Vitullo <petevi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you Eric, luckily we don't have a need for any hardware changes,
and as long as the box is 'supported' MLC updates, card replacements due
to an error, my feeling is leadership is OK to stretch out our EOS well
past 2024.

historically, with other sites IBM has been offering some carrots to get
off old hardware maybe they will make us an offer we cannot refuse.

Carmen

On 8/18/2022 2:44 PM, Eric D Rossman wrote:
That was pretty much going to be my thinking too. I don't have any
insight into the decision.
Long ago, the time from GA to EOS was shorter (like 9 years or so), then
it slowly increased to 12-13 years (and even 14 for the z900 GA1), but
recent models has been slightly less (10-11 years), so my thinking (again I
don't have any OFFICIAL insight):
worst case: EOY 2024
best case: EOY 2026

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Hi Carmen,

Just taking a SWAG based on prior history, I would guess you're looking
at the end of 2026 for the z13 or z13s to fall off support.
https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/ibm-mainframe-life-cycle-history

Rex

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] IBM Z13 and Z13s EOL

I understand IBM has not officially published the EOL for the z13
processors but I'm wondering if anyone knows in advance when that date 'may
be'?
we're looking at some hardware options, and pricing some software, and
if we had an idea when our z13 was EOL that would help us make some
decisions on HW/SW thanks Carmen
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