Not what I meant by program for. I was referring to the ibm approved workloads
(DB2, zAAP for Java) and learning how the accelerators impact the computing
speed, and what kinds of applications take best advantage of them.
Thanks for the heads up though,
Enzo Damato
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On May 28, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Mike Schwab
<mike.a.sch...@gmail.com<mailto:mike.a.sch...@gmail.com>> wrote:
You can't program for the specialty processors without a contract from
IBM. That is what got Neon to speed up DB2.
https://www.theregister.com/2011/06/01/ibm_prevails_over_neon_zprime/
On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 8:53 PM Enzo D'Amato <edam...@octechservices.org> wrote:
I am trying to get in contact with someone from IBM. I don't plan on pushing
the processor too hard (I am only one person), so I am not too upset about
this. I would really like to unlock some of the specialty engines to learn more
about how they impact performance and software behavior. Either way though,
performance isn't the end of the world for me.
Thanks for the info,
Enzo Damato
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Subject: Re: my new z114
Once a CBU record expires, the machine is stuck at whatever it was
originally configured for, an A01 in your case. And since this machine
was withdrawn from LICC marketing a long time ago, a customer can't even
extend the contract. Basically, this single restriction is probably why
you were able to purchase the box for only $2K.
But your case is different. I'm hoping someone at IBM will get
involved, skip over the rules, and get you what you need (LICC and
software) in order to help popularize the mainframe with younger folks
who are obviously interested enough to get their own hardware.
On 5/28/2022 11:11 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote:
Interesting. This seems logical considering where the machine came from.
Would it be possible to toggle the CBU on even though it is expired? Or would
the machine lock this out once the contract expired.
Thank you,
Enzo Damato
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Subject: Re: my new z114
I think that data is from 2015, the last time the machine reported its
configuration to IBM as far as I can tell. So a lot could have happened
between then and now. Here are a couple of files you may find useful:
https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/enzo/config.txt
https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/enzo/diagram.png
The first is a list of the feature codes, descriptions, and counts (in
cards not ports) of each item reported. This may be what was originally
ordered, or there could have been additions or removals between order
time and that 2015 list.
The png file is generated by IBM's config program and should look at
least somewhat like what you have and can be matched up with the
config.txt listing.
In addition, this appears to have been a Disaster Recovery machine with
a CBU contract that expired in 2016. That would explain why it's an A01
with a good amount of FICON and a decent amount of memory (for the
time). The CBU contract would have allowed the customer to dynamically
add processors/speed for DR testing (or a real DR), while only paying
for an A01 - which is the cheapest possible for a DR box.
What concerns me about power is that I was always under the impression
that a machine's ability to run either 3ph or 1ph is determined at order
time, although I'm not sure since I never worked with anything but 3ph
boxes. Next time I talk with an IBM CE/SSR/Top-Gun I'll try to remember
to ask about that, or hopefully somebody else here knows.
On 5/28/2022 7:28 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote:
This is about what I expected in terms of CPU and memory, but I have no idea
what happened with the expansion cards. I almost certainly will not use 18
ficon ports anyway, so I am not too upset about those ports. Either way, I will
ask the seller what happened with the extra channel cards. I also wanted to ask
if anyone could share the proper 3 phase to single phase wiring for the power
cable (I know the z114 BPRs can take 220v single phase). I am checking the
technical and physical planning guides for this information, but I would like
to independently verify this information so that I don't fry my new machine.
Thanks,
Enzo Damato
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Subject: Re: my new z114
I was able to download the config information, but it doesn't seem to
match what you reported. So it could be I'm looking at something else.
Here's a summary - I'll assume you don't mind me posting it here since
many people here want to help.
z114 2818-M05-A01 485F7
26 MIPS, 3 MSU
40 GB
18 ports FICON 8S SX
8 ports OSA 3-2P 1000BASE-T
STP
CPACF
1 HMC Tower
2 Power cables - 14ft 200V 30A 3Ph Line
On 5/27/2022 9:18 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote:
I have a model 2818 with s/n 02-485F7. I am fairly sure that I have a
relatively low CPU capacity number, and all my unused PCIE card slots have
blank fillers, but 2 of my I/O drawer slots are empty (no card or filler). If
you can do a lookup, I would appreciate it.
Thank you,
Enzo Damato
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Subject: Re: my new z114
Do you know the serial number? It's typically on a small label on the
front door. With that, someone from IBM (or maybe even me, I'm not
sure) can go to IBM's Inventory Services and get the configuration data
that was uploaded the last time the machine was connected to IBM's "call
home" network. That data includes model, CP speed and count, cards, and
other items. And if that data matches your card count, that's a good
sign nobody has been picking spare parts out of the box.
On 5/27/2022 7:43 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote:
Parwez is correct that this is a M05 model, I will let you know what I have
in terms of processor capacity as soon as I finish setting up power and turn it
on. I in terms of my IO card configuration, this is what I currently have in
the box:
2 2 port pcie 8g ficon cards (pcie)
2 2 port rj45 Ethernet cards (pcie)
1 4 port ficon card (IO drawer)
2 16 port escon cards (IO drawer)
I did want to ask however, do that crypto express cards and OSA adapters
require LICCC codes to enable? Most of my home network is 10GbE, and I wanted
to put one of those cards in so I can directly network it to my core switch,
but I don't want to order one if it will not activate. I am currently working
on sourcing FICON storage, and I will update you if I make any headway on that
front. I also have a plan and I think I will be able to get some mainframe
attached virtual tape set up. As Harry recommended, I do plan on doing some
experimenting with the bare metal on the machine, but I don't have much
experience with embedded/bare metal programming, so I would really be starting
from the ground up with that. I would like to get in contact with someone about
getting software disks/licences for my machine. I know that you said that it
would be a special order as the software is withdrawn from marketing, but
considering the circumstances, it may not hurt to ask. I would also like to
look into what would be involved in getting a LICCC capacity upgrade (the z114
is not completely out of support until the end of this year). If you know
anyone who I should reach out to, please let me know.
I am quite close to both the z/VM and Marist events (I am like 20 minutes
from the IBM Poughkeepsie plant), but I will have to check my calendar to see
if I can make them (I should be able to, but I may have finals that week. I
will have to check).
I will keep this list updated as I make progress and work on getting the
system set up.
Thank you,
Enzo Damato
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Subject: Re: my new z114
Enzo,
Congratulations on your acquisition!
I’m curious if you happen to know yet the physical model (it’ll be either
2818-M05 or 2818-M10) and general capacity details, notably the capacity model,
number/type(s) of specialty engines (if any; IFLs, zIIPs, ICFs), and memory
configuration. The capacity model is a letter (A to Z), the number 0, and a
number 0 to 5. For example, Q02. [A00 would be unfortunate since that’d mean no
general purpose engines (CPs) are configured. If it’s a Z05 you won this
lottery, but really any CP capacity is fine for a home lab.] Also, have you
figured out yet what features you have installed in the I/O slots?
As I think I mentioned, if you have a 2818-M10 and/or lots of I/O features
you might be able to (unofficially, after very careful study) field modify the
physical configuration so that you’re powering fewer components to reduce
electricity consumption and heat output in your home lab. But if you have a
-M05 with just a few I/O features then this’ll be a moot point.
I wonder if the machine has any Crypto Express adapters.
I really like the suggestion to visit the z/VM conference if you can. There
are bound to be many curious and knowledgeable people there. If 21st Century
Software happens to be at that conference then you could ask them about VSEn
6.3 if that interests you. There’s also a mainframe conference coming up at
Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York, from June 12 to 14, if convenient.
https://ecc.marist.edu/web/conference2022
Operating systems that do not require ECKD/FICON-attached storage
(technically, leaving any licensing issues aside): Linux, z/VM, z/VSE, VSEn.
Possibly also MUSIC/SP, as a guest of z/VM anyway, but I’m guessing a bit. I
think you can start the z/OS Customized Offerings Driver without actually
having any attached storage, but then you can’t do that much with it.
Operating systems that require ECKD/FICON-attached storage: z/OS, z/TPF.
(z/TPF is even a little more particular about minimum storage configurations. I
believe it requires some physical or virtual tape as well.)
There are some bootable “mini things” that people don’t generally consider
operating systems but that do serve useful functions. Standalone IOCP and Jan
Jaeger’s ZZSA are two good examples.
Good luck, and please keep us posted.
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Timothy Sipples
Senior Architect
Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity
IBM zSystems/LinuxONE, Asia-Pacific
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