There are some share documents showing what companies have experienced. They run at full speed for the proportion then run on the assist processors. No user changes, just the supporting software runs there.
On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 10:05 PM Enzo D'Amato <edam...@octechservices.org> wrote: > > Not what I meant by program for. I was referring to the ibm approved > workloads (DB2, zAAP for Java) and learning how the accelerators impact the > computing speed, and what kinds of applications take best advantage of them. > > Thanks for the heads up though, > Enzo Damato > > Get BlueMail for Android<https://bluemail.me> > On May 28, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Mike Schwab > <mike.a.sch...@gmail.com<mailto:mike.a.sch...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > You can't program for the specialty processors without a contract from > IBM. That is what got Neon to speed up DB2. > https://www.theregister.com/2011/06/01/ibm_prevails_over_neon_zprime/ > > On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 8:53 PM Enzo D'Amato <edam...@octechservices.org> > wrote: > > I am trying to get in contact with someone from IBM. I don't plan on pushing > the processor too hard (I am only one person), so I am not too upset about > this. I would really like to unlock some of the specialty engines to learn > more about how they impact performance and software behavior. Either way > though, performance isn't the end of the world for me. > > Thanks for the info, > Enzo Damato > ________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > Tom Brennan <t...@tombrennansoftware.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 2:33 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > Once a CBU record expires, the machine is stuck at whatever it was > originally configured for, an A01 in your case. And since this machine > was withdrawn from LICC marketing a long time ago, a customer can't even > extend the contract. Basically, this single restriction is probably why > you were able to purchase the box for only $2K. > > But your case is different. I'm hoping someone at IBM will get > involved, skip over the rules, and get you what you need (LICC and > software) in order to help popularize the mainframe with younger folks > who are obviously interested enough to get their own hardware. > > On 5/28/2022 11:11 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote: > Interesting. This seems logical considering where the machine came from. > Would it be possible to toggle the CBU on even though it is expired? Or would > the machine lock this out once the contract expired. > > Thank you, > Enzo Damato > ________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > Tom Brennan <t...@tombrennansoftware.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2022 1:58 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > I think that data is from 2015, the last time the machine reported its > configuration to IBM as far as I can tell. So a lot could have happened > between then and now. Here are a couple of files you may find useful: > > https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/enzo/config.txt > https://www.mildredbrennan.com/mvs/enzo/diagram.png > > The first is a list of the feature codes, descriptions, and counts (in > cards not ports) of each item reported. This may be what was originally > ordered, or there could have been additions or removals between order > time and that 2015 list. > > The png file is generated by IBM's config program and should look at > least somewhat like what you have and can be matched up with the > config.txt listing. > > In addition, this appears to have been a Disaster Recovery machine with > a CBU contract that expired in 2016. That would explain why it's an A01 > with a good amount of FICON and a decent amount of memory (for the > time). The CBU contract would have allowed the customer to dynamically > add processors/speed for DR testing (or a real DR), while only paying > for an A01 - which is the cheapest possible for a DR box. > > What concerns me about power is that I was always under the impression > that a machine's ability to run either 3ph or 1ph is determined at order > time, although I'm not sure since I never worked with anything but 3ph > boxes. Next time I talk with an IBM CE/SSR/Top-Gun I'll try to remember > to ask about that, or hopefully somebody else here knows. > > On 5/28/2022 7:28 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote: > This is about what I expected in terms of CPU and memory, but I have no idea > what happened with the expansion cards. I almost certainly will not use 18 > ficon ports anyway, so I am not too upset about those ports. Either way, I > will ask the seller what happened with the extra channel cards. I also wanted > to ask if anyone could share the proper 3 phase to single phase wiring for > the power cable (I know the z114 BPRs can take 220v single phase). I am > checking the technical and physical planning guides for this information, but > I would like to independently verify this information so that I don't fry my > new machine. > > Thanks, > Enzo Damato > ________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > Tom Brennan <t...@tombrennansoftware.com> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 2:18 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > I was able to download the config information, but it doesn't seem to > match what you reported. So it could be I'm looking at something else. > Here's a summary - I'll assume you don't mind me posting it here since > many people here want to help. > > z114 2818-M05-A01 485F7 > 26 MIPS, 3 MSU > 40 GB > 18 ports FICON 8S SX > 8 ports OSA 3-2P 1000BASE-T > STP > CPACF > 1 HMC Tower > 2 Power cables - 14ft 200V 30A 3Ph Line > > On 5/27/2022 9:18 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote: > I have a model 2818 with s/n 02-485F7. I am fairly sure that I have a > relatively low CPU capacity number, and all my unused PCIE card slots have > blank fillers, but 2 of my I/O drawer slots are empty (no card or filler). If > you can do a lookup, I would appreciate it. > > Thank you, > Enzo Damato > ________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > Tom Brennan <t...@tombrennansoftware.com> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 11:53 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > Do you know the serial number? It's typically on a small label on the > front door. With that, someone from IBM (or maybe even me, I'm not > sure) can go to IBM's Inventory Services and get the configuration data > that was uploaded the last time the machine was connected to IBM's "call > home" network. That data includes model, CP speed and count, cards, and > other items. And if that data matches your card count, that's a good > sign nobody has been picking spare parts out of the box. > > On 5/27/2022 7:43 AM, Enzo D'Amato wrote: > Parwez is correct that this is a M05 model, I will let you know what I have > in terms of processor capacity as soon as I finish setting up power and turn > it on. I in terms of my IO card configuration, this is what I currently have > in the box: > 2 2 port pcie 8g ficon cards (pcie) > 2 2 port rj45 Ethernet cards (pcie) > 1 4 port ficon card (IO drawer) > 2 16 port escon cards (IO drawer) > > I did want to ask however, do that crypto express cards and OSA adapters > require LICCC codes to enable? Most of my home network is 10GbE, and I wanted > to put one of those cards in so I can directly network it to my core switch, > but I don't want to order one if it will not activate. I am currently working > on sourcing FICON storage, and I will update you if I make any headway on > that front. I also have a plan and I think I will be able to get some > mainframe attached virtual tape set up. As Harry recommended, I do plan on > doing some experimenting with the bare metal on the machine, but I don't have > much experience with embedded/bare metal programming, so I would really be > starting from the ground up with that. I would like to get in contact with > someone about getting software disks/licences for my machine. I know that you > said that it would be a special order as the software is withdrawn from > marketing, but considering the circumstances, it may not hurt to ask. I would > also like to look into what would be involved in getting a LICCC capacity > upgrade (the z114 is not completely out of support until the end of this > year). If you know anyone who I should reach out to, please let me know. > > I am quite close to both the z/VM and Marist events (I am like 20 minutes > from the IBM Poughkeepsie plant), but I will have to check my calendar to see > if I can make them (I should be able to, but I may have finals that week. I > will have to check). > > I will keep this list updated as I make progress and work on getting the > system set up. > Thank you, > Enzo Damato > ________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of > Timothy Sipples <sipp...@sg.ibm.com> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 6:04 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: my new z114 > > Enzo, > > Congratulations on your acquisition! > > I’m curious if you happen to know yet the physical model (it’ll be either > 2818-M05 or 2818-M10) and general capacity details, notably the capacity > model, number/type(s) of specialty engines (if any; IFLs, zIIPs, ICFs), and > memory configuration. The capacity model is a letter (A to Z), the number 0, > and a number 0 to 5. For example, Q02. [A00 would be unfortunate since that’d > mean no general purpose engines (CPs) are configured. If it’s a Z05 you won > this lottery, but really any CP capacity is fine for a home lab.] Also, have > you figured out yet what features you have installed in the I/O slots? > > As I think I mentioned, if you have a 2818-M10 and/or lots of I/O features > you might be able to (unofficially, after very careful study) field modify > the physical configuration so that you’re powering fewer components to reduce > electricity consumption and heat output in your home lab. But if you have a > -M05 with just a few I/O features then this’ll be a moot point. > > I wonder if the machine has any Crypto Express adapters. > > I really like the suggestion to visit the z/VM conference if you can. There > are bound to be many curious and knowledgeable people there. If 21st Century > Software happens to be at that conference then you could ask them about VSEn > 6.3 if that interests you. There’s also a mainframe conference coming up at > Marist College in Poughkeepsie, New York, from June 12 to 14, if convenient. > > https://ecc.marist.edu/web/conference2022 > > Operating systems that do not require ECKD/FICON-attached storage > (technically, leaving any licensing issues aside): Linux, z/VM, z/VSE, VSEn. > Possibly also MUSIC/SP, as a guest of z/VM anyway, but I’m guessing a bit. I > think you can start the z/OS Customized Offerings Driver without actually > having any attached storage, but then you can’t do that much with it. > > Operating systems that require ECKD/FICON-attached storage: z/OS, z/TPF. > (z/TPF is even a little more particular about minimum storage configurations. > I believe it requires some physical or virtual tape as well.) > > There are some bootable “mini things” that people don’t generally consider > operating systems but that do serve useful functions. Standalone IOCP and Jan > Jaeger’s ZZSA are two good examples. > > Good luck, and please keep us posted. > > — — — — — > Timothy Sipples > Senior Architect > Digital Assets, Industry Solutions, and Cybersecurity > IBM zSystems/LinuxONE, Asia-Pacific > sipp...@sg.ibm.com > > > ________________________________ > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ________________________________ > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . > > > ________________________________ > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ________________________________ > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . > > > ________________________________ > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ________________________________ > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . > > > ________________________________ > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ________________________________ > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > . > > > ________________________________ > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ________________________________ > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
