Radoslaw, You're like a prosecuting attorney digging down to get the truth out of your witness ...
Are we moving off the mainframe? That is what I mentioned in my email. Exact date? Not really but they did say the goal was 4th quarter 2022. Is the date guaranteed? No, but what in life is? Who is the guarantor? Word has come from the President/CEO of the company and yes the CIO was pushing for it. Do I/we have it on paper ... the President/CEO put it into one of his monthly status notices to the company so yes, I would say it is on paper and has been clearly communicated. So you would lose the bet. I doubt there will be new management in a few years ... I do not see the current President/CEO, CIO, and/or any of the other VP's leaving the company or being replaced by the board. Yes our system will be unsupported but this won't be the first time plus IBM will still help for a known problem and truthfully I'm not expecting any because we are not doing any "new" development on the mainframe. *I* will not be in trouble because I will be retired and if they find they need to go back (keep) the mainframe up and running then good luck to them to find those that will/do still work on the mainframe. I do not classify us as a financial institution ... we are a Commercial and Personal Property Insurance Company ... I do not know if that classifies us as a financial institution. I/we too have gotten the green light to do the upgrade but after trying to get BA's and DEV's to test on it for the last 6 months I'm about ready to give up since they are all too busy with their normal day to day work where they cannot spend an hour or two to do some testing for us. Plus we have a couple of old applications that no one really knows how they work so testing them is next to impossible and if they don't work we cannot go through with the upgrade. Thanks to those that I have heard from that are running on older z/OS versions with no problems ... that at least makes me a little more comfortable not keeping our system up to date. Thanks, Ron McCabe Manager of Mainframe/Midrange Systems Mutual of Enumclaw -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2021 1:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: z/OS versions CAUTION: This email is from an external address. Please be careful of links and attachments. Are you moving off the mainframe? Do you know exact date of mainframe shutdown? Is the date guaranteed? Who is the guarantor? Some team leader, project manager, external contractor? Is it CIO? Do you have it on paper? Is it clearly communicated? I bet NO. So I bet few years later there will be new management, who did not guaranteed anything. But *your* system will be unsupported with some effects of it. *You* will be in trouble. Note, it is sometimes against the rules to run such system by financial institution. The last caused I've got green light for system upgrade, despite they want to move off the mainframe. However the willingness is approx. 10 years old, but results are still not promising. Oh, BTW - while it was impossible to move off the mainframe, it occured possible to move off me. :-( -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 16.07.2021 o 21:52, McCabe, Ron pisze: > Hello IBM List, > > Got a question about how you feel about running on an unsupported z/OS > version. Just about like everyone else our company is moving off the > mainframe ... after several failed attempts I do believe they have something > that will work this time and I'm OK with it because if they reach their goal > End of Life for the mainframe will be when I was planning on retiring. > Some background - we are currently running z/OS 2.2, we started the process > to upgrade to 2.3 about 6 months ago and we are close to implementing > providing our DEV's and BA's can finish up the testing that we require which > is not going very well. Since the EOL goal for the mainframe is 4th quarter > 2022 we are now thinking of not implementing z/OS 2.3 since it could possibly > cause more problems for us than just staying with z/OS 2.2. > > So my question - how does everyone feel about running on an unsupported z/OS > system? > > Thanks, > Ron McCabe > Manager of Mainframe/Midrange Systems > Mutual of Enumclaw ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Confidentiality Notice: This e- mail and all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL information and are meant solely for the intended recipient. It may contain controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party. 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