" It's Beta vs VHS all over again" 
GREAT analogy, like DVD vs Laser DISC 
and who won out, the better of the two ? nope 


Carmen Vitullo 

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From: "Lionel B Dyck" <lbd...@gmail.com> 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:20:47 AM 
Subject: Re: [External] Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes" 

Y'all stop using logic and reason - this is an emotional issue that the author 
and others are invested in and has nothing to do with IBM effectively telling 
the world that the mainframe is dead based on all the layoffs that have 
occurred over the last 20-25 years, or that IBM continues to offload software 
development or outright sells IBM software to other companies, or that IBM has 
bought into the Cloud and has reduced their investment in developing z/OS, or . 
. . . 

And then there is the vast amounts of money to be made by replacing a mainframe 
- I'm sure that those vendors offering those services only have the best 
interests of the current mainframe users at heart. 

It's Beta vs VHS all over again 

Lionel B. Dyck <sdg>< 
Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com 

"Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you 
are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Pommier, Rex 
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 8:58 AM 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: [External] Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes" 

So does this mean that 2/3 of companies out there are running unsupported 
hardware and software? 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Raphaël Jacquot 
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:48 AM 
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Subject: [External] Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes" 

Le 09/06/2020 à 14:24, Peter Bishop a écrit : 
> Interesting re 2): 
> 
> "The survey found that organizations are running an average of four 
> mainframes with an average age of 17 years. Sixty-four percent are 
> running mainframes between 10 and 20 years old, with 28% running 
> machines that are 20 to 30 years old. " 
> 
> So 2/7 are running machines over 20+ years old? And 2/3 over 10 
> years? What does that even mean? Smells fishy to me. What is the 
> sample size? Is it biased somehow? 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Peter 

it does make sense if out of those 4 machines, they have older and newer 
boxes... 

Raphael 

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