Bet many were 30 year old 4381s, 3081s or whatever running MVS prior to XA. 
Depends who you ask. Application base code may not have changed much. I'd hope 
front-ends are no longer subarea SNA! 

Many hardware and software upgrades later we have modernised the mainframe. 

Didn't MVS address spaces invent the 'Cloud'?

For what mainframes do well, try doing it better AND cheaper in the 'Cloud'. 

Same as the 30-50 year old spade with 3 new blades and 10 new handles.

Mike Wawiorko   

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of 
Peter Bishop
Sent: 09 June 2020 13:24
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"


This mail originated from outside our organisation - p.bis...@computer.org

Interesting re 2):

"The survey found that organizations are running an average of four mainframes 
with an average age of 17 years. Sixty-four percent are running mainframes 
between 10 and 20 years old, with 28% running machines that are 20 to 30 years 
old. "

So 2/7 are running machines over 20+ years old?  And 2/3 over 10 years? What 
does that even mean?  Smells fishy to me.  What is the sample size?  Is it 
biased somehow?

Cheers,
Peter


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