We don't have a switch.  And GRS can't possibly be worse than MIM using DASD to 
send the information between the LPARs, which is what is happening now.

Brian

On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 11:43:30 +0200, R.S. <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> wrote:

>Good question. However better question is why LPARs withing single CPC
>cannot communicate via some emulated channel like ICP or IQD. The only
>reasonable answer is because IBM decided. Was the decision reasonable?
>That's another question.
>Fortunately for FICON CTC it is enough to use *one* channel connected do
>a switch. And the channel may be shared, that means may also serve
>another CUs.
>Assuming poor configuration and lack of budget, that could be a solution
>to use two (redundancy) existing FC chpids, attached to switch. Of
>course I would choose less busy channels.
>
>BTW: GRS ring is not for free. It will take CPU cycles. And it will
>introduce delays.
>The alternative for GRS ring is ...maybe no GRS between LPARs. Maybe
>workload can be consolidated on single LPAR or resources may be not
>shared. Or sharing may be reorganized.
>
>--
>Radoslaw Skorupka
>Lodz, Poland
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>W dniu 02.06.2020 o 05:42, kekronbekron pisze:
>> Just curious .. why does it have to be FICON CTC, why can't it be SMC-D/R or 
>> HiperSockets or one of those ICA-SR (or whatever it's called) connectors IF 
>> 2 machines are involved.
>>
>>
>> - KB
>>
>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Monday, June 1, 2020 6:29 PM, Allan Staller <allan.stal...@hcl.com> wrote:
>>
>>> See the manuals "Setting up a SYSPLEX" and "Merging Systems Into A 
>>> SYSPLEX". Both can be found on the IBM zOS Library site.
>>> Some key items not available in a base sysplex:
>>>
>>> GRS START (use CTC for inter-image communication.
>>> VTAM Generic resources, VTAM MNPS
>>> RACF data sharing (RACF sysplex communications is available)
>>> Many others. All are described in Setting Up a SYSPLEX
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Behalf Of 
>>> Brian Westerman
>>>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 2:05 AM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>>> Subject: Base SYSPLEX setup
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>>> Hi,
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>>> I'm looking for information on how to set up a base SYSPLEX with only Ficon 
>>> CTC's that seem to be referred to as XCF CTC's.
>>>
>>> I'm sure someone had done this before and is probably doing it now for 
>>> Multiple LPARs that are running on the same processor CEC. Configuration 
>>> help (parms etc.) would be greatly appreciated. I think all we need to do 
>>> to connect the 3 existing LPARs is purchase 2 FICON cards (we currently 
>>> have no extras). Unfortunately, the IBM docs seem to talk a lot about the 
>>> full parallel sysplexes (with Coupling facilities), but we don't have them, 
>>> and they seem to be a great deal more expensive than FICON cards which are 
>>> all we need to implement GRS anyway (that's our goal). We can also 
>>> apparently create a virtual CF, but the overhead appears to be far greater 
>>> than we can spare.
>>>
>>> Any CXF CTC setup information would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
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