For our type of load it's supposed to be negligible. The machine is a 13MSU box and the load that runs is about 8 to 11 at the peaks, so it's pretty low use. Most of what runs isn't batch or TSO, so there isn't a lot of allocation/deallocation going on.
Brian On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 04:41:54 +0000, Seymour J Metz <sme...@gmu.edu> wrote: >Have you evaluated the CPU cost of GRS in a ring? > > >-- >Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > >________________________________________ >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of >Brian Westerman [brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com] >Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 12:36 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Base SYSPLEX setup > >It's all about the cost. Especially right now, there is just no money to put >into the box. If we knew for sure that the software CF would only take 1MSU >or less, then we would do it in a heartbeat, but it's a base model z13s so >there are only 13MSU's int he entire complex, taking even one away is a big >deal, but IBM will only guarantee that it wouldn't take more than "a couple". >We don't have a couple to give up. Even just 2 is more than 15%. The goal is >to install GRS (free) so that we can drop MIM. > >On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 11:15:45 +0200, R.S. <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> wrote: > >>W dniu 01.06.2020 o 02:27, Brian Westerman pisze: >>> The box isn't maxed out, but it's pretty close. It's a base z13s and no >>> money to upgrade it. The cards are a cheap way to get by (they are under >>> $400 with $0 increase in maintenance costs), whereas the cost of a CF is >>> far greater. We can't use the software CF option (build a CF lpar without >>> a actual CF processor) because that would take us over the tipping point >>> and no budget to add any more MSU's to resolve it. Maybe in a year or so, >>> but for now that's not a viable option. >> >>OK, we know it's poor configuration. Old machine, small one. >>So, what is the reason for Sysplex? What goal to achieve? >>Sysplex takes some CPU, so for "pretty close to maxed out" CPC it is not >>very fine. >>IMHO it would be reasonable to consider purchase second hand CPC as >>standalone CF and some cards. Of course the question about the goal is >>still valid. >> >>-- >>Radoslaw Skorupka >>Lodz, Poland >> >> >> >> >> >>====================================================================== >> >>Je�li nie jeste� adresatem tej wiadomo�ci: >> >>- powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dzi�kujemy!), >>- usu� trwale t� wiadomo�� (i wszystkie kopie, kt�re wydrukowa�e� lub >>zapisa�e� na dysku). >>Wiadomo�� ta mo�e zawiera� chronione prawem informacje, kt�re mo�e >>wykorzysta� tylko adresat.Przypominamy, �e ka�dy, kto rozpowszechnia >>(kopiuje, rozprowadza) t� wiadomo�� lub podejmuje podobne dzia�ania, narusza >>prawo i mo�e podlega� karze. >> >>mBank S.A. z siedzib� w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 >>Warszawa,http://secure-web.cisco.com/15OWiOdCm4GznBvnnKw6X3yZLqNv8pT-7PB_1iO3mWjo7Q8gm8PlAFUJrEGGliME5TZV5K5-LN_C8vilKWWfMXMA-9QrMl_l5rSOvdcmrQwRvL3BT8DDkbp3XbBUTycrssNKyAVpkg7DR5AsscwsdLKt9S7cOkzFUtOmJCmGI371F_jX7B6s_Bovb-Q6bzHHZl3L7CgCo-4FsI-1lUg7pJyJTCQTq7OZZw7xrWhibFcW-oHvmFhVOXuQt9qm7gbEsqHMO9cw2V0hEwrUXJ6tHoSYC5KTfQ6D0gSrMFUD6V_wVyVmQaCD9H0xU9rEHifqGBfERJKqh-cf3QMCyyIcA3tBCCFGb3XwosFst2gO2osp3yN1UZIhdEYz08HiGYiaIDtbQhCWQIoNots64UKPGGfCcbRyOWHmLO2bq9Dlg5_GwLnHUb4TLpdsugzD8l27x/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mBank.pl, >> e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. S�d Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia� >>Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru S�dowego, KRS 0000025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. >>Kapita� zak�adowy (op�acony w ca�o�ci) wed�ug stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi >>169.401.468 z�otych. >> >>If you are not the addressee of this message: >> >>- let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), >>- delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have >>printed out or saved). >>This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used >>exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates >>(copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the >>law and may be penalised. >> >>mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 >>Warszawa,http://secure-web.cisco.com/15OWiOdCm4GznBvnnKw6X3yZLqNv8pT-7PB_1iO3mWjo7Q8gm8PlAFUJrEGGliME5TZV5K5-LN_C8vilKWWfMXMA-9QrMl_l5rSOvdcmrQwRvL3BT8DDkbp3XbBUTycrssNKyAVpkg7DR5AsscwsdLKt9S7cOkzFUtOmJCmGI371F_jX7B6s_Bovb-Q6bzHHZl3L7CgCo-4FsI-1lUg7pJyJTCQTq7OZZw7xrWhibFcW-oHvmFhVOXuQt9qm7gbEsqHMO9cw2V0hEwrUXJ6tHoSYC5KTfQ6D0gSrMFUD6V_wVyVmQaCD9H0xU9rEHifqGBfERJKqh-cf3QMCyyIcA3tBCCFGb3XwosFst2gO2osp3yN1UZIhdEYz08HiGYiaIDtbQhCWQIoNots64UKPGGfCcbRyOWHmLO2bq9Dlg5_GwLnHUb4TLpdsugzD8l27x/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mBank.pl, >> e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, >>12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 0000025237, NIP: >>526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at >>1 January 2020. >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
