And credible system programmer should be able to diagnose a simple wait
state. It really is not terribly difficult. And if you can't, perhaps
Windows is more your style.
Sorry.

Doug 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Early IPL problems

So you are suggesting that all mainframe IBMers are equally knowledgeable. 
That statement would be a fallacy.

Thank You,
Dave O'Brien

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From: J. Cassidy [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Early IPL problems

The IBM Mainframe people were implied in my previous post.

Coffee time perhaps?

=> You're assuming that every employee of IBM is well versed in every aspect
=> of all of IBM's products.
=> Are all of your team members equally versed in the OS that you are
=> running? I rather doubt it.
=>
=> Thank You,
=> Dave O'Brien
=> NIH Contractor
=> ________________________________________
=> From: J. Cassidy [[email protected]]
=> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 1:49 PM
=> To: [email protected]
=> Subject: Re: Early IPL problems
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=> I think Doug Fuerst had a point though.
=>
=> With their vast knowledgebase and thousand of man(woman)years of
=> experience, a set of "questions" like that from IBM
=> is rather odd.
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=>
=> =>> -----Original Message-----
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