SAE - StandAlone Editor, from a vendor whose name escapes me now, in Winnipeg, Canada, I believe.
Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software 408 Chamberlain Park Lane . Franklin, TN 37069-2526 . USA t: +1.617.614.4503 . e: [email protected] . w: www.rocketsoftware.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Doug Fuerst Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 3:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Early IPL problems At some point, and at some place, I had a standalone dataset editor. You IPL'd it, and you could edit a dataset. Can't remember who made it. Old age, you know.... Doug -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 4:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RES: Early IPL problems Or you can download an amazing SOS IPL text... Available at http://www.cbttape.org/~jjaeger/zzsa.html Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto BANCO BRADESCO S.A. 4254 / DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: +55 11 3684-2177 R: 42177 3-1402 Fax: +55 11 4197-2814 -----Mensagem original----- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] Em nome de Doug Fuerst Enviada em: segunda-feira, 14 de maio de 2012 16:56 Para: [email protected] Assunto: Re: Early IPL problems I always found that your activity the day after you have a wait state and you have no other system to fix it is to create a small one or two pack system to save your butt next time it happens. Or create another LPAR and have the space system running all the time. You generally only have this happen once. Doug -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Martin, Larry D Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 1:51 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Early IPL problems John, I have always found that the Wait States that I encounter are of my own doing. I have never done an SADUMP. The one occurrence that was problematic was after a POR and no LP would IPL. Had to make changes to SYS1.PARMLIB but had no system. We were saved by the "Jan Jeager's OS/390 System Utilities". Building that capability into the HMC would be a great addition. Thanks, .............Larry -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 12:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Early IPL problems Thanks for all of the feedback thus far, both on and off the list, it has been useful. So far, there seems to be general agreement that the frequency of problems is low (at least in production LPARs), that some way of displaying what the Wait State Code (WSC) means would be useful and that recovery from these sort of problems is accomplished by using another running z/OS system. To help focus the feedback somewhat I would be interested to know: - What are the typical steps taken to identify/recover from a WSC ? For example, Step 1: Find the meaning of the WSC Step 2: SADUMP Step 3: Correct the source of the problem Step 4: Re-IPL Step 5: Open a PMR etc., etc. Steps 1 seems fairly certain, beyond that the remaining steps (both content and sequence) seem to be much less so. - Are the existing messages useful/sufficient for identifying the underlying cause and how to correct the WSC ? - Are there circumstances (e.g. console setup, etc.) that prevent the existing messages from being seen ? - Are additional/better/different messages needed to identify and/or correct the cause of the WSC ? - Is there any need to diagnose and/or correct problems without resorting to another running z/OS system ? - To what extent, if any, is it desirable to avoid the WSC by providing some means of error recovery ? Thanks. 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