It's is lacking the "more advanced" tools that I am used to having on Linux. Part of the reason may well be due to EBCDIC. And due to the fact that z/OS is strictly a "commerical" system. I don't see z/OS being used "at home" (don't I wish!) or much in "educational" markets (anymore). And supercomputers? No way! It's not even, IMO, a very nice development platform. If it were, why is IBM "pushing" Rational and using workstation based Eclipse as the main interface? (ISPF really is a bit primitive, in today's environment.)
-- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * [email protected] * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Ford > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: How convert "historic" STCK to local time? > > Guys, > Are you saying Unix on z/os is lacking tools ? > > Sent from my iPad > Scott Ford > Senior Systems Engineer > www.identityforge.com > > > > On Mar 1, 2012, at 4:01 PM, "McKown, John" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Curiousity, what do you mean by "proper integration of Unix > Services in MVS"? Are there services in other versions of > UNIX that you'd like to see in z/OS UNIX? Or is it that z/OS > UNIX is (how?) not properly integrated into z/OS? > > > > What would I like? A complete GNU tool chain. Also, current > versions of Perl, python, ruby, gawk, sed, grep, bash, vim, > emacs(?). Of course, I realise that IBM cannot afford to > supply these things for free. I, personally, cannot attempt > to "port" this because: (1) we don't have a C license; (2) we > are CPU critical and constantly monitoring to reduce our MSUs > to reduce our software costs; (3) I likely don't have the talent. > > > > -- > > John McKown > > Systems Engineer IV > > IT > > > > Administrative Services Group > > > > HealthMarkets(r) > > > > 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 > > (817) 255-3225 phone * > > [email protected] * www.HealthMarkets.com > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain > confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the > intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail > and destroy all copies of the original message. > HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten > and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, > Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West > National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA > Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > >> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 7:18 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: How convert "historic" STCK to local time? > >> > >> In <[email protected]>, on > 02/29/2012 > >> at 07:05 AM, Shane Ginnane <[email protected]> said: > >> > >>> Yep, it's called TZDATA. Pity IBM hasn't gotten sufficiently > >>> organized to embrace it for z/OS Damn, I guess that places me > >>> alongside gil/John. Thus a (nominal) triumvirate - perchance to > >>> progress to a fully populated cabal someday ? > >> > >> I'm a member od a different cabal; I want *both* proper > integration of > >> Unix Services in MVS *and* all of the tools that I would expect on > >> other *ix platforms, e.g., a current[1][2] Perl, OOREXX. > >> > >> [1] I'm looking to upgrade my OS/2 system from Perl 5.10.0 to 5.14 > >> while MVS is stuck on 5.8.7. > >> > >> [2] Yes, it would take a lot of work to resolve the EBCDIC-Unicode > >> issues. Perhaps they could offer Perl 6 instead? > >> > >> -- > >> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT > >> ISO position; see > <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> > >> We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. > >> (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >> > >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
