Because the common player also doesn't care if Valve/TF2 fails?

Why not take a few minutes to actually understand what you are reading
before replying with these obvious questions?


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:18 PM, James Haikin <[email protected]> wrote:

> So if the common player doesn't care, why should Valve? Serious question.
>
> -James
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Robert Paulson <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> SPUF is a tiny portion of the TF2 population. Most people that play a
>> game don't go on the forums to chat about it.
>>
>> The common player won't even give 2 shits if TF2 itself is dying because
>> of this change.
>>
>> They are not die hard fans and they will just go back to COD or Titanfall
>> if the servers they want to play on are emptying out because of Valve. They
>> are not going to petition Valve, complain on SPUF, or even be aware that
>> Valve is causing this.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:58 PM, James Haikin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> "Most of the users on SPUF".
>>>
>>> You mean "the majority of the game's playerbase"? So 90% of the game's
>>> players don't care about the problem? Why, then, is it a problem?
>>>
>>> -James
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Bubka3 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think discussing topics which directly affect server operators
>>>> on SPUF is a good idea. Most of the users on SPUF are not technically
>>>> inclined and could probably care less about this problem.
>>>>
>>>>   James Haikin <[email protected]>
>>>>  Friday, April 25, 2014 7:52 PM
>>>> You want to discuss something? Take it to SPUF.
>>>>
>>>> -James
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>   Robert Paulson <[email protected]>
>>>>  Friday, April 25, 2014 7:46 PM
>>>> I don't see how there could be a better place to discuss this. This
>>>> quickplay problem affects srcds servers and this is a mailing list for
>>>> servers that is visited by the people responsible for this change.
>>>>
>>>> If Valve does not realize this is a problem, that is even more of a
>>>> reason to keep talking about it.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think Valve doesn't care, they just don't know it is a problem.
>>>> Otherwise they wouldn't have wasted their time making quickpick.
>>>>
>>>> They need to realize it is causing a net loss of players and quickplay
>>>> options and quickpick didn't solve the issue.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>   James Haikin <[email protected]>
>>>>  Friday, April 25, 2014 7:33 PM
>>>> I'm just sick of people bitching about something that Valve has shown
>>>> no indication of changing, in a place where it's rather patently
>>>> inappropriate for the discussion to be taking place.
>>>>
>>>> -James
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>   Robert Paulson <[email protected]>
>>>>  Friday, April 25, 2014 7:31 PM
>>>> "Empirical" evidence was already offered which you thought were "my"
>>>> players, as if I had tens of thousands of players. Those numbers are pulled
>>>> straight from Steam.
>>>>
>>>> What's the point of trolling this discussion? Don't you have anything
>>>> better to do?
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>   James Haikin <[email protected]>
>>>>  Friday, April 25, 2014 7:14 PM
>>>> Why hello there, anecdotal evidence. If you could go ahead and get us
>>>> an actual cross-section of the playerbase, that'd be greeeeeat.
>>>>
>>>> -James
>>>>
>>>>
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