So if the common player doesn't care, why should Valve? Serious question.

-James


On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Robert Paulson <[email protected]>wrote:

> SPUF is a tiny portion of the TF2 population. Most people that play a game
> don't go on the forums to chat about it.
>
> The common player won't even give 2 shits if TF2 itself is dying because
> of this change.
>
> They are not die hard fans and they will just go back to COD or Titanfall
> if the servers they want to play on are emptying out because of Valve. They
> are not going to petition Valve, complain on SPUF, or even be aware that
> Valve is causing this.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:58 PM, James Haikin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> "Most of the users on SPUF".
>>
>> You mean "the majority of the game's playerbase"? So 90% of the game's
>> players don't care about the problem? Why, then, is it a problem?
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Bubka3 <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think discussing topics which directly affect server operators
>>> on SPUF is a good idea. Most of the users on SPUF are not technically
>>> inclined and could probably care less about this problem.
>>>
>>>   James Haikin <[email protected]>
>>>  Friday, April 25, 2014 7:52 PM
>>> You want to discuss something? Take it to SPUF.
>>>
>>> -James
>>>
>>>
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>>>   Robert Paulson <[email protected]>
>>>  Friday, April 25, 2014 7:46 PM
>>> I don't see how there could be a better place to discuss this. This
>>> quickplay problem affects srcds servers and this is a mailing list for
>>> servers that is visited by the people responsible for this change.
>>>
>>> If Valve does not realize this is a problem, that is even more of a
>>> reason to keep talking about it.
>>>
>>> I don't think Valve doesn't care, they just don't know it is a problem.
>>> Otherwise they wouldn't have wasted their time making quickpick.
>>>
>>> They need to realize it is causing a net loss of players and quickplay
>>> options and quickpick didn't solve the issue.
>>>
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>>>   James Haikin <[email protected]>
>>>  Friday, April 25, 2014 7:33 PM
>>> I'm just sick of people bitching about something that Valve has shown no
>>> indication of changing, in a place where it's rather patently inappropriate
>>> for the discussion to be taking place.
>>>
>>> -James
>>>
>>>
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>>>   Robert Paulson <[email protected]>
>>>  Friday, April 25, 2014 7:31 PM
>>> "Empirical" evidence was already offered which you thought were "my"
>>> players, as if I had tens of thousands of players. Those numbers are pulled
>>> straight from Steam.
>>>
>>> What's the point of trolling this discussion? Don't you have anything
>>> better to do?
>>>
>>>
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>>>   James Haikin <[email protected]>
>>>  Friday, April 25, 2014 7:14 PM
>>> Why hello there, anecdotal evidence. If you could go ahead and get us an
>>> actual cross-section of the playerbase, that'd be greeeeeat.
>>>
>>> -James
>>>
>>>
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