Users can and do use Hibernate in app servers without using EM... On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 10:34 +0200, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > 3.5 (at least annotations and EM) targets EE 6 app servers as we will > depend on JPA 2, so it likely won't work in old app servers (different > bootstrap contract). > > The lack of feature support is a bitch though. > > On 22 sept. 09, at 19:55, Steve Ebersole wrote: > > > How many app servers support jdk 1.6 at this point? > > > > As for the drivers, i believe most have jdbc 4 drivers available. The > > bigger question is how many really support the jdbc 4 features as > > opposed to implement the methods and do nothing or throw > > unsupportedoperationexception? Back when Gail and I first started > > looking at this quite a few fell into this latter category. > > > > On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 19:42 +0200, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > >> So some databases can't be accessed from JDK 6? That sucks. > >> I guess the question is from the people that can't go for JDK 6 / > >> JDBC > >> 4, how many are willing to move to the next version of Hibernate > >> anyway. > >> If it's a small minority, we should move on. If not then we need to > >> hack around :( > >> > >> On 22 sept. 09, at 19:36, Steve Ebersole wrote: > >> > >>> JDBC 4 is JDK 1.6, correct. > >>> > >>> Because not all deployment environments support jdk 1.6 nor do all > >>> jdbc > >>> drivers support jdbc 4 > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 19:07 +0200, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > >>>> Actually naive question. > >>>> JDBC 4 is JDK 6 right. Since JDK 5 is EOLed at the end of this > >>>> month, > >>>> Why don't we just stop JDBC 3 support altogether? > >>>> > >>>> On 22 sept. 09, at 18:19, Emmanuel Bernard wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> from how I understand Maven, swallow it and go for 2. > >>>>> > >>>>> On 21 sept. 09, at 20:53, Steve Ebersole wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> http://in.relation.to/12371.lace > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thoughts? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Steve Ebersole <st...@hibernate.org> > >>>>>> Hibernate.org > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> hibernate-dev mailing list > >>>>>> hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org > >>>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> hibernate-dev mailing list > >>>>> hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org > >>>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> hibernate-dev mailing list > >>>> hibernate-dev@lists.jboss.org > >>>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/hibernate-dev > >>> -- > >>> Steve Ebersole <st...@hibernate.org> > >>> Hibernate.org > >>> > >> > > -- > > Steve Ebersole <st...@hibernate.org> > > Hibernate.org > > > -- Steve Ebersole <st...@hibernate.org> Hibernate.org
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