Marco, It appears you are correct. Given this test file:
body common control { bundlesequence => { "test" }; inputs => { "cfengine_stdlib.cf" }; } bundle agent test { vars: "myfile" string => "/tmp/foo"; classes: "file_exists" expression => fileexists("$(myfile)"); files: "$(myfile)" delete => tidy; reports: file_exists:: "$(myfile) exists"; !file_exists:: "$(myfile) does not exist"; } Here are the relevant lines in the verbose agent output. Note that even after the file has been deleted, in the 2nd and 3rd iterations the file_exists class is still defined, which does indeed validate your belief. nova> vars in bundle test (1) nova> classes in bundle test (1) nova> + Private classes augmented: nova> + file_exists nova> files in bundle test (1) nova> Promise handle: promise_test_cf_16 nova> Promise made by: /tmp/foo nova> -> Using literal pathtype for /tmp/foo nova> -> Handling file existence constraints on /tmp/foo nova> -> Verifying file deletions for /tmp/foo nova> -> Deleted file /tmp/foo nova> reports in bundle test (1) nova> Promise handle: promise_test_cf_20 nova> Promise made by: /tmp/foo exists nova> R: /tmp/foo exists nova> nova> Skipping whole next promise (/tmp/foo does not exist), as context !file_exists is not relevant nova> vars in bundle test (2) nova> classes in bundle test (2) nova> + Private classes augmented: nova> + file_exists nova> files in bundle test (2) nova> reports in bundle test (2) nova> Skipping whole next promise (/tmp/foo does not exist), as context !file_exists is not relevant nova> vars in bundle test (3) nova> classes in bundle test (3) nova> + Private classes augmented: nova> + file_exists nova> files in bundle test (3) nova> reports in bundle test (3) I interpret this behavior as Cfengine detecting the file existing some time during this entire run of the agent. I can see how this could potentially lead to confusing or undesired behavior, but so far it's not a problem I've run into. I don't know whether this was Mark's intended behavior for Cfengine, but either way, as he and many on this list would say, sometimes you need to step back and reevaluate what you're trying to do and/or why you're trying to do it. This may be one of those cases. Can you provide a specific example of how this may be causing a problem for you? If so, please state your problem as a business requirement rather than providing example code, which can often confuse matters. Justin -----Original Message----- From: Lebel, Marco [mailto:marco.le...@domtar.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:42 PM To: Justin Lloyd; fo...@cfengine.com; help-cfengine@cfengine.org Subject: RE: Cfengine Help: Re: RE: Cfengine Help: cfengine program flow Justin, You are bringing an interesting point since I struggle with classes in this context. But I have not done any structured testing but I am under the impression that once a class has been set it never gets unset. Again I want to stress that I never did any exhaustive testing on this but I believe that classes once set they are set globally (i.e. visible in all subsequent bundle) and never get unset even if the condition that initially created it is no longer true... Again the key word is an impression that needs to be confirmed by someone in the know or has done the necessary testing. Marco -----Original Message----- From: help-cfengine-boun...@cfengine.org [mailto:help-cfengine-boun...@cfengine.org] On Behalf Of Justin Lloyd Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 5:31 PM To: fo...@cfengine.com; help-cfengine@cfengine.org Subject: RE: Cfengine Help: Re: RE: Cfengine Help: cfengine program flow As I understand it, it will reevalute the class promise, and therefore check for the file's existence, on all three iterations. A good way to see what is happening is to run cf-agent in verbose mode (cf-agent -vK) and write its output to a file then read through it. You'll see lines like this (yours will be prefixed with something other than "nova>"): [r...@rhn ~]# cf-agent -vK > /tmp/out [r...@rhn ~]# grep '^nova>.* in bundle .* ([1-3])' /tmp/out nova> vars in bundle def (1) nova> classes in bundle def (1) nova> vars in bundle def (2) nova> classes in bundle def (2) nova> vars in bundle def (3) nova> classes in bundle def (3) nova> vars in bundle update (1) nova> classes in bundle update (1) nova> processes in bundle update (1) nova> commands in bundle update (1) nova> files in bundle update (1) nova> services in bundle update (1) nova> vars in bundle update (2) nova> classes in bundle update (2) nova> processes in bundle update (2) nova> commands in bundle update (2) nova> files in bundle update (2) nova> services in bundle update (2) nova> vars in bundle update (3) nova> classes in bundle update (3) nova> processes in bundle update (3) nova> commands in bundle update (3) nova> files in bundle update (3) nova> services in bundle update (3) nova> vars in bundle dg (1) nova> classes in bundle dg (1) nova> vars in bundle dg (2) nova> classes in bundle dg (2) nova> vars in bundle dg (3) nova> classes in bundle dg (3) Note how it does 3 iterations of the promise types in bundle "def", then 3 of bundle "update", etc. ("dg" is a custom bundle of mine). Justin -----Original Message----- From: help-cfengine-boun...@cfengine.org [mailto:help-cfengine-boun...@cfengine.org] On Behalf Of fo...@cfengine.com Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 3:22 PM To: help-cfengine@cfengine.org Subject: Cfengine Help: Re: RE: Cfengine Help: cfengine program flow Forum: Cfengine Help Subject: Re: RE: Cfengine Help: cfengine program flow Author: nicolas Link to topic: https://cfengine.com/forum/read.php?3,16959,16960#msg-16960 thanks for the fast response. it helps, i thought this is a recommendation :-/ (i should read more exactly) but one question i still have: if i define a class: classes: "xy_installed" expression => fileexists("/usr/example"); does it recheck this value each time i use xy_installed:: or only once at the beginning of each of the 3 times? regards nicolas _______________________________________________ Help-cfengine mailing list Help-cfengine@cfengine.org https://cfengine.org/mailman/listinfo/help-cfengine This electronic communication and any attachments may contain confidential and proprietary information of DigitalGlobe, Inc. 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