Guys, if gradient is a requirement to be "modern", just 
do it, but don't overdo it or IOW do it lightly like these 
tools do.

I didn't test MSVS and other "modern" tools in terminal 
server (or VM with not fully accelerated video) situations, 
but I can imagine these visual fluffs are (or can be) 
disabled when running in such environment.

In any case, maybe it would be good to make it an option 
in HBIDE. Visual fluff is nice for the first 10 days, but 
if it makes work any slower or require any more resources 
than absolutely necessary it becomes an annoyance over time, 
and here we're talking about months and years of daily 
work with these visual dev tools.

Brgds,
Viktor

On 2010 Mar 20, at 20:22, Massimo Belgrano wrote:

>>> Project mapping and user menu (because i use for integrate harbour
>>> developer language with winapi)
>> On TODO list.
> Very good!
> 
>>> Gui Debugger
>> Still not thought of, I need be more educated in this field.
> basic function of prg level debug are exec steep by step your prg and
> show value of variable
> MultiThread give more difficult debug http://www.allinea.com/?page=86
> c level need solution like Valgrind
> Can somebody share here intresting experiences in different language?
> 
>>>   -Color and look must find a way to be more professional
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Where do you find hbIDE does not look professional ?
>> Single out the areas and suggest what should be different.
>> We removed the gradients because of obivious reasons,
>> that is what you are pointing out ?
> in follow lin same screeen shoot of Vistual studio 2010 all
> icon,element are blue colored
> qt similar look green
> In color area Vailton Renato have made a very good work with Harbour website
> Can Vailton Help here?
> 
> Anybody can contribute here with wich are  good look and feel for Modern Gui
> Web 2.0 Colour
> 
> 
> http://blogs.lessthandot.com/index.php/DesktopDev/MSTech/visual-studio-2010-screenshots
> http://community.visual-basic.it/alessandro/archive/2009/10/20/26741.aspx
> http://blogs.devleap.com/articolidevleap/archive/2008/11/30/visual-studio-2010-primo-contatto-parte-3.aspx
> 
> 
> 
>>>   -Having all toolbar feature in also menu because tree toolbar are a
>>> lot and little unusual
>>>   -we need reduce complexity
>> Here I am totally disagree with you at all.
>> How do you consider a menu is better than a toolbar.
>> In this case you are refering to tree-views, right ?
>> Note that complex nature of some data need different
>> presentation methodology.
> No sorry i bad explain
> if you  give either way of do a Thing, can be used for user that
> habitually use menu or toolbar or righclick
> for example i use menu and user menu for discover choice offered from a 
> program
> then want define my preferred customised  icon toolbar
> 
>> 
>>>   -give a extensibility for allow the creation of plugin
>> "pligin" concept is proprietory to Qt itself, and cannot be
>> replicated through Harbour wrappers.
>> BTW which "plugins" you are talking about?
> still sorry for my bad english
> I think a plugin for hbide,
> FOr example if a write a program and want use in hbide
> Kind of program may be like...
> -customised file compare
> -Another file search function
> -Binary editor
> -Support a different language in hbide
> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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