On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 01:11:23PM -0500, myg...@gmail.com wrote: > On 01/31/2018 at 18:27 Pjotr Prins writes: > > > On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:58:09AM -0500, myg...@gmail.com wrote: > >> To be explicit, I added a couple target groups and indicated the product > >> we would pitch with an x ... > >> > >> | Target Group | Guix | GuixSD | Motivation > >> | > >> |-----------------------------+------+--------+--------------------------------------| > >> | hacker | x | x | scheme, functional, free > >> > >> | sysadmin & devop | x | ? | make > >> user/developer/researcher happy > > > > I doubt they will use GuixSD unless they have a very specific purpose > > in mind, e.g., say for mailserver deployment. Cloud/VMs. It could > > work, but I don't think it is a large group we can pitch to. > > What about a forward-thinking sysadmin commissioning new systems for a > startup? If they know they want Guix is there a reason they wouldn't > install GuixSD?
Could be. > > > >> | user/developer/researcher | x | | productivity tool > > > > This is my favorite because they are potential packagers. > > > >> | generic organizational user | ? | | ? > >> | > > > > Yes, another target group, i.e., the pointy haired boss. Some of these > > understand the concept of reducing cost. > > Here I am thinking of "unsophisticated" users, e.g., someone told to run > SAS on a server that is probably not going to actually ever call guix. Yes. But the pointy haired boss may read about saving time and money and call for trying out Guix. > > > >> | desktop distro user | | ? | ? > >> | > > > > Libre desktop user. Yes. > > > >> |-----------------------------+------+--------+--------------------------------------| > > > > We also have embedded systems and phones as a potential audience. I > > think OpenWRT/LEDE, for example, could buy into Guix. And then there > > is Android. If we are able to strip down packages to a minimum that > > becomes very interesting to them. > > OK, so like this ? > > >> | Target Group | Guix | GuixSD | > >> | embedded sys/phone | | x | It will be a migration path. I was thinking Guix packages. But when we have lean packages GuixSD becomes an option, indeed. > > > > Then we have HPC as a specialization with optimized targets and > > relocatable packages. > > OK, so like this? > > >> | Target Group | Guix | GuixSD | > >> | HPC sysadmin | x | x | optimized targets and > >> relocatable packages Not GuixSD. HPC will run CentOS or similar. > > And light containers for webservice/cloud deployments... > > Is this more detail on HPC or something else entirely? I think it is something else. More business oriented. Think Amazon. HPC is not ready to accept containers on a large scale. Pj.