On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 4:16 AM, mhoye via governance <
governance@lists.mozilla.org> wrote:

>
> I think that we need to have a nuanced and probably difficult conversation
> about what openness means, and what working in the open means on the modern
> internet.
>

In general, I think everything you said is reasonable, but I'm having
trouble connecting it to the specific issue of IRC vs. Slack. Are there
people who have abandoned IRC in favour of Slack due to harassment or
similar reasons? (That's a genuine question, I don't know.)

To me, the difference between IRC and Slack comes down to two things.

- Slack is a bit prettier, easier for newbies, and has a few more bells and
whistles. (Though a good client like IRCCloud makes the IRC experience very
close to the Slack experience.)

- Slack is proprietary and non-open. (The latter characteristic could help
avoid harassment issues.)

I suspect that people have moved to Slack because of the first issue rather
than the second, though I'd be happy to be corrected about that. Assuming
that's correct, I think it's a shame that our primary synchronous
communication channel has been fragmented for that kind of reason.

Nick
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