Hi Svetlana,
On 2016-10-10 00:03, Svetlana Tkachenko wrote:
Good day,
I agree that waiting can help, but could you clarify which person you are
talking about, and how long you think is optimal to wait before coming
back?
No particular person - this is a broad principle.
Right. I did not bring this topic here until many days after realizing most of
the items I reported. If you were suggesting me to wait for a longer time,
please specify how long you think would have been optimal.
In any case, forking an organization as known
as Mozilla should not be done lightly.
You don't fork organizations - you fork software. I don't have any
particular fork recommendations, it is up to you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Web_browsers_based_on_Firefox has
a list of popular forks.
Right.
Most of the initial issues I reported are not Firefox issues. Cloning an
organization as large and known as Mozilla requires an enormous investment.
That avenue should only be chosen as a last resort.
I am far from thinking that the
situation is hopeless.
It is of course a possibility; I am just pointing out that resolving
this situation is not required for these patches to be written.
Thanks
Your point has some merit, so sorry if you already realized the following, but
my intervention here is about much more than writing patches for the 9
(non-meta) issues I mentioned, and even much more than solving these issues in
the affected products. I have been using Mozilla software since before Firefox
was Firefox. I have even been promoting Firefox since about the same time.
Using free software is a daily source of frustration (today's? "Sending of message
failed" when clicking Send for this very mail). But when I start using a free
software product, I can check its ITS to evaluate its quality. And if I choose to use it,
every time I will experience a bug, I will think:
1. that it may be already fixed
2. if not, that it may be already reported
3. if not, that I can report it, so that it may be fixed, and so that other
potential users are warned about the issue meanwhile.
My trust in a free software product is largely based on the belief that issues
will eventually be fixed, and that there is transparency about the current
status.
For components as large as Firefox, I unfortunately cannot read each issue report before
deciding to use it. There are apparently 7350 open "bugs" reported against
Firefox (which excludes some components). Does that mean there are 7350 reported
Firefox-specific issues which persist, or 5 times more, since most persisting issues are
marked as resolved? And if there are 30 000 persisting Firefox-specific issues reported,
how many issues are there? Do half of those who cared enough about quality to report
issues get their account disabled and stop reporting? Or are these cases exceptional?
These are all questions I will have to ask myself when I have to decide if I
should start using a new Mozilla product, if I should try switching to an
alternative to a Mozilla product, if I should install a Mozilla product for
family members, friends and colleagues, if I should advocate usage of Mozilla
products, etc.
Svetlana
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