On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Rubén Martín <nukea...@mozilla-hispano.org> wrote: > * It's not the first time we take decisions because everyone else is > doing it, and we want to keep being relevant. > o This worries me the most looking at the future, since we are > going to be always the only ones with completely different > values to the rest of the players in the browser ecosystem. > o Have we lost hope to be enough relevant to avoid these situations?
It's not a question of absolutes. We don't have anywhere near as much marketshare that we can call all the shots all the time. But that doesn't mean that we don't have any influence. But there was a lot of pressure on the various actors here. And sadly we don't have enough influence to prevent the badness in this situation. And we didn't receive enough help from the larger internet community. Where was the internet outrage when Microsoft and Google implemented this in their browsers? Where was the outrage towards Hollywood studios asked for this? The fact that people at large simply let them get away with this silently is ultimately what is forcing our hand here. This is not that different from that we were ultimately forced to ship h264 due to the very developers that we were trying to protect were the ones that yelled at us for going our own way. We can't do everything ourselves. As much as I wish that wasn't the case. And remember, just like with the video codec issue, just because we lost in this instance doesn't mean that we've given up. We haven't yet gotten all browsers to follow standards all the time, and all developers to write user friendly websites all the time. But we continue to make improvements. However as someone working with other browser vendors on a very regular basis, I can definitely say that we do have enough marketshare that we have a lot of influence. We are definitely able to make the web a better place on a very regular basis. As an example, just the other day we were able to negotiate a more standardized approach to push notifications where other browser vendors were happy to do proprietary solutions. This would not have been possible without the influence that we have, and the hard work we put in. The decision today is an improvement over the NPAPI-based DRM solutions that currently exist. We will continue to work on making the next iteration better yet. Hopefully we will one day manage to rid the web of DRM completely. > * We want to get rid of plugins but we implement something that always > depends on an external and proprietary module. > o It won't be impossible to access the full web using open source > bits, since if we also agree on this, even people not using DRM > right now are going to switch to it eventually. DRM is inherently incompatible with open source unfortunately. Not just on a philosophical level, but also technically. I'll let others comment here as I don't know enough details. / Jonas _______________________________________________ governance mailing list governance@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/governance
