> > 1. Since some time I don't know what "Go team" is. As Google put a > trademark on Go, and its own label on golang.org website, so they > obviously wanted that everyone was aware of who stands behind the project, > it would be correct to say "a group of Google employees".
Those who are familiar with GitHub, are aware that profiles list organizational memberships. Those who are members of the GoTeam are clearly labelled as such on their GitHub profile, and that is a group of more than 50. The ones in that group that I have worked with are not Google employees. I understand that you are feeling disenfranchised. I told Ian that he needs to stop working on Generics and ship it. We can use his preprocessor as is as a standard which will bring unity to Go Generic users. The problem with my idea which would keep you happy is that many of the most senior users would now be on Ian's fork including myself. This discussion has taken place at GopherCon, at coffee houses, at informal vid conferences for a decade. If you were not a participant, then that is on you. Ian, this matter is Res Judicata, in respect of the bandwidth, please close this thread. On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 11:05 AM Tyler Compton <xavi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Believe it or not, that wasn't my intention at all. There certainly are > other people unhappy with the generics proposal, and they were burned too. > I was attempting to acknowledge your position compassionately while also > arguing that things aren't nearly so bad as you say. > > Unfortunately, it seems you're determined to be the victim here as > evidenced by your continual misreading of peoples responses. I'm also > giving up on this thread. > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 04:54 Space A. <reexist...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ok so this is a nice post. What you are trying to do with it is to make >> an impression that there is only I in the whole Universe who was unhappy >> with that proposal. >> It's not true. Open the issue and read down below comments by other >> people. Some others who might also wanted to give their feedback can't do >> this because it was locked and there is no intent to listen to them. >> >> > Go team created a proposal that a large enough number of Go users found >> beneficial for it to be accepted >> 1. Since some time I don't know what "Go team" is. As Google put a >> trademark on Go, and its own label on golang.org website, so they >> obviously wanted that everyone was aware of who stands behind the project, >> it would be correct to say "a group of Google employees". >> 2. Sure, Ian has revealed how that "consensus" was measured. By counting >> "thumbs up", "thumbs down" and "confused" emojis. So Go is not driven by >> polls, it's driven by emojis. >> >> >> >> >> чт, 18 мар. 2021 г. в 23:22, Tyler Compton <xavi...@gmail.com>: >> >>> I think we all want to stick our noses in this thread. I'm going to >>> stick my nose in it too :) >>> >>> Space, I don't think you'll ever be happy as a result of this >>> discussion, no matter what evidence or arguments others provide you. I >>> think the fact is that you were burned by the outcome of the generics >>> proposal. You didn't have the time to review the draft proposal and engage >>> with the discussion early, and you disagree with the resulting outcome. >>> That's unfortunate and I'm sorry it happened. I hope you don't feel that >>> people are trying to convince you that you weren't burned. Nothing feels >>> worse than having your concerns trivialized. >>> >>> However, you have to understand that just because you were burned >>> doesn't mean that those around you making these decisions are bad actors. >>> There are probably small ways that this process could have been improved, >>> but I don't think they would have changed the outcome. The reality is that >>> after many iterations, the Go team created a proposal that a large enough >>> number of Go users found beneficial for it to be accepted. I know you >>> disagree with them, but our responsibility as members of this community is >>> to exercise our right to disagree without resorting to attacks on >>> character. I hope I've been able to address your concerns and disagree with >>> you without making you feel I'm attacking your character. >>> >>> To those who are still attempting to provide evidence that the generics >>> proposal process was conducted in good faith, I think you've done >>> everything you need to do and it's probably best to just let this one go. >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 7:08 AM Space A. <reexist...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Since pro-generics ppl here are struggling to provide any evidence of >>>> existence of open and public discussion on the topic of dropping generics, >>>> I will do it myself. >>>> >>>> Here is it: >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/golang-nuts/c/LEEuJPOg0oo/m/-EZp3YSeBQAJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "golang-nuts" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/d8b96595-effe-4eed-898d-1c4e183189dbn%40googlegroups.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/d8b96595-effe-4eed-898d-1c4e183189dbn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "golang-nuts" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/golang-nuts/lC9Z9VZXPdM/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > golang-nuts+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/CAA%3DXfu14%2B2YuGzaOfuazhAL3D62B1Gd3kjhmnV2U1sY_KqLdXA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/golang-nuts/CAA%3DXfu14%2B2YuGzaOfuazhAL3D62B1Gd3kjhmnV2U1sY_KqLdXA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Respectfully submitted, David Lynn Skinner Secretary, Davsk Ltd Co <http://stackoverflow.com/users/3886366/david-skinner> <http://github.com/ComalDave/> <http://facebook.com/david.lynn.skinner/> <http://www.instagram.com/david.lynn.skinner/> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/david-l-skinner/> <http://twitter.com/SkinnerDavidL> <http://youtube.com/c/DavidSkinnerDavsk> <http://www.pinterest.com/skinnerdavid/> IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. 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