On 14/11/14 13:24, da...@gbenet.com wrote:
On 14/11/14 11:55, Martin Behrendt wrote:
Am 14.11.2014 um 12:41 schrieb da...@gbenet.com:
Hello All,

I even tried exporting my private and public key from the command line and then 
tried
importing. The same error message as before. I have checked on the internet - 
most of the
suggestions are crap - the authors have never ever tried to do what they 
suggest others to
do. If they had done so then they would have known just how crappy their 
supposed expertise was.

I have even looked through https://www.gnupg.org/faq/GnuPG-FAQ.html  and found 
this to be a
useless pile of crap also.

I am faced with two options:

(1) Create yet another set of keys
(2) Give up using gnupg after some 20 years

I think I will unsubscribe from this list and give up on gnupg as a pile of 
crap.

David


I think unsubscribing is the best thing you can do. Because you probably
successfully destroyed the good intension and motivation of anyone
helping you, with the offending nonsense you wrote in your last mails.

If you are angry just shut up and write again after you cooled yourself
down. The problem is more likely with you because there are not many
people reporting such problems.
And I can tell from my own experience that it is not even a problem
copying the content of the gnupg directory between windows and linux.
Tried that successfully.
Maybe you should read the FAQ again (and try to understand what is
written). Maybe there is a difference between exporting the public part
of a key and the private part.

Anyway, enjoy your life.
Martin

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Martin,

I have cooled. You can export your private key - you can export your public 
key. You can
import your private key you can import your public key. In 20 years I have 
always had the
same problem - the same error message and have each time created a new set of 
keys. I have
done this 4 times.

I notice that no one on this list - for all the talk of "oh I've done it" can 
offer no
practical information has to HOW. No one. No one. No one knows how to do this 
simple task.
In all my 20 years I have never found out how. Perhaps things are different 
under a Windows
O/S but on Linux there is NO SOLUTION.

Perhaps the only "solution" is to import ones private and public keys and lose 
all your
contacts - ie a brand new installation. But I repeat BUT no one has ever 
created a mirror
image of a .gnupg and had a fully 100 per cent working signing and encryption 
functionality.
No one. There are no real practical solutions written anywhere on the internet.

There is nothing of any value in  https://www.gnupg.org/faq/GnuPG-FAQ.html - 
there never was
in all the 20 years of reading it.

Sure you can moan criticise me for my getting frustrated - and you can all moan 
and cringe
and all withdraw your support - BUT NO ONE HAS EVER OFFERED ANY PRACTICAL 
USEFUL ADVICE THAT
WILL ENABLE ME TO TRANSFER MY KEYS AND HAVE THEM WORKING CORRECTLY. NO ONE. NOT 
EVEN YOU.

You are offended? Why? It is an easy thing to do is it not to moan about what 
and how people
express themselves - yet you completely ignore the real issue. You ignore is 
because you can
offer no real meaningful solution. As I have said no one has ever successfully 
transferred
their public and private keys between machines and got them to successfully 
work. That's a
real fact. And no one on this list as any practical solutions that work in the 
real world.
That's a fact. The fact is no one on this list has ever done it with 100 per 
cent success.
That's a fact. There is no practical advice on the internet. That's a fact.

David


David,

I am pretty sure I have seen advice on how to backup and restore your keys, if not on this list, in the countless smartcard how to.

I must admit I have not followed previous threads from you, but you must admit and be fair, that generally most people here are friendly and supportive. But I have seen the topic come up a few times, so maybe this is a security versus usability issue ? But again, I have not followed exactly what your problem is. Just wanted to point out that most people are reasonably helpful and friendly. Labelling gnupg as crap is, not exactly a fair assessment I think, and falls within the lines of labelling selinux crap, because people do not understand it/are confused by what is going on.

Anyway. I hope you work it out in the end and I am sure, somebody will be willing yo nudge you in the right direction.

Regards,

Tristan

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