I haven’t been following this thread closely. Have you tried logging out of 
iCloud and then logging back in? Maybe logging out, rebooting, and then logging 
back in?

I have not had any trouble with iCloud syncing 5.17 files.
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Dave Reiser
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> On Oct 27, 2026, at 10:24, Marc Lacroix via gnucash-user 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Let me summarize the situation.
> 
> I recently discovered that iCloud Drive had ceased synchronizing.
> 
> I did several tests, and finally I found that synchronization with iCloud 
> stopped when it tried to synchronize gnucash files created with the latest 
> version of gnucash.
> 
> I know it is weird.
> 
> If I report this problem to Apple, they are likely to ask me to check with 
> gnucash.
> 
> Is there any difference in file format between versions 5.16 and 5.17?
> 
> Is there something else I should test?
> 
> 
>> Le 26 oct. 2026 à 10:58, John Ralls <[email protected]> a écrit :
>> 
>> 
>> Please remember to copy the list on all replies. 
>> 
>> Start with I loud isn’t a backup service, it’s a sync service. 
>> 
>> Gnucash has written the file to your local location(~/Library/mobile 
>> strorage/somewhere) and is done with the file. iCloud failing to upload it 
>> is beyond GnuCash’s control. If Finder reports that it’s because you’re out 
>> of quota and you think otherwise then you neeď to take that up with Apple.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2026, at 06:06, Marc Lacroix <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have 4,5 TB of free space in iCloud.
>>> 
>>> I understand that ! is used when multiple backup attempts have failed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Le 25 oct. 2026 à 22:57, John Ralls <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If you look at the Apple support page I linked in my previous you’ll see 
>>>> that the cloud with a ! in it means that you’ve used up your quota. You 
>>>> need to either clean up some older files or send Apple more money.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John Ralls
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 25, 2026, at 13:18, Marc Lacroix <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you, John, for your email,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have MacOS Golden Gate 27.0.1 running on Apple silicon.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have upgraded to Gnucash 5.17 from 5.16.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use compressed XML files.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is a screen capture of the directory in iCloud Drive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <PastedGraphic-1.png>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I removed the gnucash directory from the iCloud drive and put it back 
>>>>> after one hour.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the files were saved to the cloud server except the two gnucash files 
>>>>> created with the latest version of gnucash.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marc
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 25 oct. 2026 à 12:11, John Ralls <[email protected]> a écrit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What macOS version are you running and is your computer Apple Silicon or 
>>>>>> Intel? Had macOS upgraded around the time you first noticed the problem? 
>>>>>> If so, what are the old and new versions?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What GnuCash version did you have installed before?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What backend are you using? If it’s XML do you have compression enabled 
>>>>>> in Settings>General>Files?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Open Finder and navigate to your GnuCash directory in iCloud Drive. Does 
>>>>>> the base GnuCash file show up there? If so, does it have an iCloud 
>>>>>> status indicator next to it (see 
>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-asia/guide/mac-help/mchlc994344b/mac)? Look 
>>>>>> in particular for the dotted-cloud meaning “Waiting to upload”. Is there 
>>>>>> an error message at the top of the Finder window?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> John Ralls
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2026, at 06:39, Marc Lacroix via gnucash-user 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I installed the latest gnucash version two weeks ago, and since then, 
>>>>>>> the iCloud Drive has not been able to back up the gnucash file (only 
>>>>>>> XXXX.gnucash).
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
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