Hi David/Bo/Derek/GNUCash users, 

FWIW, the current version of Fedora is 41, so 29 is quite, uh, old...
https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-linux-41/ &
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=fedora 

I do not know if the issue with upgrading Fedora to the current version
is hardware related, but if it is, maybe those interested in upgrading
to Fedora 41 in order to upgrade to the current version of Mailman
(01-Oct-2024 Mailman 3.3.10 (Tom Sawyer) - https://www.list.org/) could
chip in a donation to https://gnucash.org/donate.phtml 

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Thanks, 

Brad - https://www.facebook.com/brad.morrison.12327/ &
https://nextdoor.com/profile/01mP46jj8KCzj3sP4 &
https://norcal.social/@BradMorrison 

On 2025-02-12 19:46, David Carlson wrote:

> In defense of Derek, I just checked the Mailman website.  Mailman 2.1 is
> still the default version.  Release 3, while it is considered reliable, it
> is treated as if it is beta software, at least in the sense that there is
> no clearly automated migration path due partly to different infrastructure
> configuration.  see <https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/migration.html>
> He has life as we all do, and he may not have the time to plan, test and
> execute a migration to release 3.whatever of mailman.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 9:19 PM flywire <flywi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> https://lists.gnucash.org/search/?idxinfo=gnucash-user is useless and
> should be replaced with
> https://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-user@gnucash.org/maillist.html before
> updating the wiki.
> 
> Bo Buckley wrote
> https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2025-February/115450.html
> :
> 
> In the docs: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GnuCash_Forum It claims: 
> * The *GnuCash project* does *not* use ancient *forum* software for its *>* 
> online user support. It uses mailing list technology.*

It's absurd. Let's call it alternative facts: eMail is 50 years old
and Mailman is 25 years old, even Mailman 2.1.19 is from 2018.

I raised https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797702 about
upgrading to Mailman 3 and received the following reply:

> Derek Atkins 2020-04-25 18:32:15 EDT
> Code runs Fedora 29.  Mailman 3 isn't available on F29.
> When code gets upgraded, mailman will be upgraded.
> As for turning off the reminder; you can turn it off yourself.
> Thank you.

Of course Mailman 3 had run on Fedora 29 for years. My recollection of
Derek's signature at the time:

> Derek Atkins                 617-623-3745
> de...@ihtfp.com             www.ihtfp.com [1]
> Computer and Internet Security Consultant

In addition to not emailing passwords back to users in clear text I
highlighted through the mailing list Mailman 3 has a forum-like
interface with search facilities.

I understand Derek manages the Mail server for the community and the
configuration isn't public.

Lastly, I acknowledge and thank Derek for the time and effort he
freely gives to me as a member of the community in support of Gnucash.

Regards
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