The same applies in Australia. The bank will require you to hold
appropriate insurance and supply them with at least a certificate of
insurance and/or the bank will arrange insurance for you. There is
generally no requirement to have an escrow account as such although its
a good means of making sure the funds are available when needed.

David

On Mon, 2024-09-30 at 18:37 -0500, R Losey wrote:
> Interesting - in the US, if we have a mortgage on our house, most
> people
> consider it prudent to have insurance on their house, and there are
> usually
> taxes based on house value (property taxes). The banks, being
> paranoid
> about losing their money, require house insurance while there is a
> mortgage, and they push hard for an escrow account to collect the
> funds to
> pay both the insurance and taxes.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 1:39 PM Boniforti Flavio
> <bonifort...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Michael.
> > 
> > I'm in Switzerland and there's no thing like the escrow account
> > you've
> > mentioned - thanks.
> > 
> > F.
> > 
> > https://www.instagram.com/boniforti_music
> > https://soundcloud.com/boniforti_music
> > https://bonny-j.bandcamp.com
> > 
> > 
> > Am Sa., 28. Sept. 2024 um 23:54 Uhr schrieb Michael or Penny Novack
> > via
> > gnucash-user <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>:
> > 
> > > 
> > > > HERE you are discussing transactions that were NOT enterable ib
> > > > your
> > > books (which are irrelavant to books begun 31.12.2023
> > > > 
> > > > I would enter it as follows (let's assume the real estate total
> > > > cost is
> > > > 500k):
> > > > 
> > > > Assets:Fixed Assets:Real Estate - increase 300k
> > > > Liabilities:Loans:Mortgage Loans: - increase 300k
> > > > Assets:Fixed Assets:Real Estate - increase 150k (downpayment)
> > > > Assets:Current Assets:Checking Account - decrease 150k
> > > > (downpayment)
> > > > Assets:Fixed Assets:Real Estate - increase 50k (reservation)
> > > > Assets:Current Assets:Checking Account - decrease 50k
> > > > (reservation)
> > > > 
> > > > If the above is correct, there's another question. I started
> > > > using
> > > GnuCash
> > > > this year and put the opening balances of all my accounts
> > > > dating back
> > to
> > > > 31.12.2023, but I bought my apartment back in 2018. If I look
> > > > at it
> > now,
> > > I
> > > > would have a huge negative balance on my checking account
> > > > (because the
> > > > money was spent in 2018 but I have the opening balance from
> > 31.12.2023).
> > > > Should I just add another "opening balance" in my checking
> > > > account
> > which
> > > > equals both the downpayment and the reservation fee?
> > > 
> > > If what I am about to say confuses you, come back to this line
> > > and
> > > think---- if on 31.12.2023 you had 10,000 in your checking
> > > account, of
> > > what relevance is it (on 31.12.2023)
> > >   how it got there. All that matters NOW is how much.
> > > 
> > > When you opened your books 31.12.2023 you should have entered AS
> > > OF THAT
> > > DATE
> > > 
> > > "assets":"fixed assets":"Real Estate":"House":"basis" debit
> > > 500.000          (credit equity 500.000)   that's what it cost
> > > <NOT
> > > relevant where money came from>
> > > 
> > > "assets":"current assets":"bank accounts":"bank
> > > y":"checking"      debit
> > > checking account balance of that date (credit equity that
> > > amount   If
> > > seems odd, you could have current assets other than in bank
> > > accounts,
> > > could have accounts at multiple banks, could have accounts other
> > > than
> > > checking. You can always do it simpler at the start and modify
> > > your CoA
> > > later as needed.
> > > 
> > > "liabilities":"mortgages":"mortgage-abc"   credit balance still
> > > owed
> > > 31.12.2023  and debit equity that amount
> > > 
> > > BTW ---- I would use as description "opening entries" and of
> > > course if
> > > you use the Starting Mount facility the equity side would have
> > > been done
> > > for you. Since I learned pen and ink on paper I use explicit
> > transactions.
> > > 
> > > NOTE: What jurisdiction? Does your mortgage payment include an
> > > amount
> > > paid into an escrow account from which insurance and taxes are
> > > paid. If
> > > so, the balance as of 31.12.2023 would be an asset "escrow
> > > account"
> > > Legally yours even though you can't access it.
> > > 
> > > Michael D Novack
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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