> On Mar 8, 2020 w11d68, at 6:09 PM, Nate Bargmann <n...@n0nb.us> wrote:
> 
> * On 2020 08 Mar 17:45 -0500, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> There’s no reason you can’t reconcile the transfers. You can even do
>> them separately if you like, though Stephen’s method of just marking
>> them clear as you go is probably better and simpler.
> 
> I'm not quite understanding how that would work as they don't show on
> the monthly bank statement.  The subaccounts are strictly for my own
> internal book keeping and the bank is unaware of them.

Yes, but you are aware of them. There’s no magic rule that says you can only 
reconcile what appears on the statement. What you are reconciling is how you 
arrived at a particular balance from a starting point. Now, for the real-world 
transactions, those will match the bank statement. But for your ‘virtual’ 
transactions, you can safely reconcile them at any point, independently or as 
part of a regular reconciliation, because they are your own creation. Only you 
know if they are correct or not.

You might make it easier to ’see’ them in the reconciliation dialog by giving 
them some common description.
> 
>> I don’t see why a deposit between Income and Checking along with extra
>> splits between Checking and Checking:A, would generate two separate
>> transactions. It should be one transaction with 4 splits.
> 
> Well, what I am after is that when I see a transaction on the bank
> statement of XXX amount that I also want to look at my ledger and see
> XXX amount without having to search through a number of transactions.

If you are marking them as cleared as you make them, they’ll appear with green 
checks in the dialog. You can just skip over them. You’re then looking for 
real-world transactions that don’t have green check marks.

As for visually scanning your register, if you think that’s a problem now, wait 
a few years. I almost never scan anymore save up or down a month or so. It is 
much faster to run a Find for what I’m looking for to at least narrow the set 
down.

Anyway, you should be only looking at the reconciliation dialog when comparing 
to the bank statement anyway. That will only show you unreconciled transactions.


> I've mostly dealt with deposits but I will have to make a transaction
> from the subaccounts to pay them out periodically.

Are these real accounts at the bank? Or just your own virtual segregation of 
funds exercise?

> Also, I don't want
> to have to search through the subaccounts to find a transaction that
> matches the bank statement.

Why would you have to do that? If you really only have one real-world account, 
all real-world transactions should be done in that actual account.

It would be a mess to have your virtual sub-accounts contain real-world 
transactions. (but you can include them in a reconciliation if you like, so you 
don’t have to search them separately, they’ll all appear in one window)

I tried this with cash for an envelope budgeting method. I quickly changed to 
just moving the cash back and forth as needed with all real transactions in the 
main cash account, but even that got to be too much. GnuCash just isn’t 
designed for that feature right now.

> 
> I know I am not making myself clear with this.  Maybe I need to work up
> a dummy ledger and take a screen shot.

Before you get too far, make sure you are using the reconciliation dialog to 
match up transactions - don’t attempt that via the register.

1. Click Reconcile button on toolbar
2. Enter the closing date and closing balance from the statement in the next 
dialog. (choose to include sub-accounts if you have actual transactions in them)
3. As you match statement transactions to GnuCash deposits and withdrawals (or 
debits and credits) check them off in the reconciliation dialog.
4. When you’ve matched everything from the statement, the Difference at the 
bottom right should be zero.
5. Any unchecked transactions either haven’t yet cleared the bank, or, they are 
your own virtual transfers. Those, you can safely check off and they should all 
net to zero when done. (leave the real ones that haven’t cleared the bank alone 
of course till next time)
6. Click the Finish icon.

Regards,
Adrien
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