Hi all. I'm a bit confused because I swear we updated the wiki to reflect that we stopped having weekly meetings in favor of using the mailing list for as-needed coordination and discussion. I'll make that change now. For reference: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-accessibility-list/2015-April/msg00009.html
--joanie On 05/29/2015 12:34 PM, William Best wrote: > Well I suppose that I will try to join their next meeting. Is anyone > else interested in doing so? > > Will > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:22 PM Jeremy Whiting <jpwhit...@kde.org > <mailto:jpwhit...@kde.org>> wrote: > > Seems to be here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Accessibility/ > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:19 AM, William Best > <standard7...@gmail.com <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Brian, > > > > Where is the site for the GNOME Accessibility Team located? > > > > Thanks! > > Will > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:15 PM William Best > <standard7...@gmail.com <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com>> > > wrote: > >> > >> All, > >> > >> I am familiar with GOK, and actually tracked down the original > authors of > >> that software. I believe they were from the University of > Toronto, and were > >> no longer interested in doing that. I am not sure about > caribou. I think a > >> nice solution would be to integrate switch/pointer access in > conjunction > >> with speech recognition. > >> > >> This is a software application that some of the people I work > with use: > >> http://goo.gl/43Mev6 > >> > >> It is nearly $1000 USD though. > >> > >> I think there has to be someone out there with the skills to create > >> something like this as an open source project. That is what I > would like to > >> help accomplish. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> Will > >> > >> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM Cesar Mauri <ce...@crea-si.com > <mailto:ce...@crea-si.com>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Will, > >>> > >>> Not sure, not much into Gnome specific development, but in the past > >>> there were efforts devoted to a project called GOK [1]. It was a > >>> on-screen keyboard which supported scanning access. It seems > that now it > >>> has been replaced by Caribou [2]. Not sure about its current > status. The > >>> folks involved in this project might provide you more insight. > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> > >>> > > https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/idp5239184.html > >>> [2] > >>> > >>> > > https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/Caribou?action=show&redirect=Caribou > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> César > >>> > >>> El 29/05/2015 a las 17:37, William Best escribió: > >>> > Cesar, > >>> > > >>> > I am going to try out your Viacam project with one of my > individuals > >>> > at the beginning of next week. > >>> > > >>> > I would like to get a project going that would bring switch > access to > >>> > Gnome via a programmable on-screen keyboard. > >>> > > >>> > How can something like this get started? > >>> > > >>> > Thanks! > >>> > Will > >>> > > >>> > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:21 AM Cesar Mauri > <ce...@crea-si.com <mailto:ce...@crea-si.com> > >>> > <mailto:ce...@crea-si.com <mailto:ce...@crea-si.com>>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Welcome William, > >>> > > >>> > I've been working with people with cerebral palsy for more > than ten > >>> > years and I maintain the Enable Viacam [1] open source > project. > >>> > Here in > >>> > Spain I'm also involved in this project [2] (web page in > Spanish, > >>> > sorry) > >>> > in which we try to improve the social participation of > people with > >>> > cerebral palsy through the use of technology. > >>> > > >>> > In my view, there is still a lot to be done and, in general, > >>> > accessibility is always lagging behind the pace of innovation, > >>> > even more > >>> > in the FOSS arena. Unfortunately, most "state of the art" > assistive > >>> > technology is privative and, often, scandalously > expensive, as you > >>> > already know. > >>> > > >>> > As for speech recognition, we also had little success with > people > >>> > with > >>> > cerebral palsy due to their speech disorders (dysarthria). > In most > >>> > cases > >>> > we have to rely on other input methods such as alternative > >>> > keyboards, > >>> > mouses, joysticks or even switches and scanning > techniques. Up to > >>> > our > >>> > knowledge, best solutions for specialised scanning access > and AAC > >>> > are > >>> > only available for Windows and, in general, privative. One > >>> > exception is > >>> > SAW (Special Access to Windows) [3], very powerful but > only for > >>> > Windows > >>> > and hard to use for most people. It would great if we had > >>> > something like > >>> > SAW but easy to use and available for FOSS environments. > And this > >>> > is > >>> > just an example. Also open to collaborate. > >>> > > >>> > [1] http://viacam.org > >>> > [2] http://aspacenet.aspace.org/ > >>> > [3] https://sourceforge.net/projects/sawat/ > >>> > > >>> > Regards, > >>> > > >>> > César > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > El 29/05/2015 a las 15:17, William Best escribió: > >>> > > Eric, > >>> > > > >>> > > I would love to help you with your project where I can. My > >>> > strengths > >>> > > are not in writing code per se, but I understand the > issues you > >>> > face. > >>> > > I work with 120 individuals with all forms of disabilities. > >>> > > > >>> > > How successful have you been with using voice > recognition using > >>> > > Windows? I have had limited success with voice recognition > >>> > technology > >>> > > in my work. This is mostly due to the people who have > physical > >>> > > disabilities have cerebral palsy which also presents speech > >>> > problems > >>> > > in these cases. > >>> > > > >>> > > Access is difficult for folks with disabilities, and my > goal is > >>> > to > >>> > > collaborate with others to create open source versions > of some > >>> > very > >>> > > expensive propriety software systems. > >>> > > > >>> > > Could you send a video of you using your setup so I can > >>> > visualize it? > >>> > > > >>> > > Thanks! > >>> > > Will > >>> > > > >>> > > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:06 AM Eric Johansson > <e...@eggo.org <mailto:e...@eggo.org> > >>> > <mailto:e...@eggo.org <mailto:e...@eggo.org>> > >>> > > <mailto:e...@eggo.org <mailto:e...@eggo.org> > <mailto:e...@eggo.org <mailto:e...@eggo.org>>>> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > Welcome to the list. I joined because I am disabled and > >>> > > unfortunately the accessibility models currently > available > >>> > do not > >>> > > help me in the slightest. I was hoping to find the > time to > >>> > serve > >>> > > my own needs which I know would serve the needs of other > >>> > people > >>> > > like myself with upper extremities disabilities and > dependent > >>> > on > >>> > > speech recognition. > >>> > > > >>> > > Best laid plans etc cetera. :-) > >>> > > > >>> > > Here's where I'm at and I could use some help. > >>> > > > >>> > > the only really useful speech recognition > environment right > >>> > now is > >>> > > nuances naturally speaking followed closely by > Microsoft. > >>> > > obviously the main problem is they only run on Windows. > >>> > > > >>> > > I have set up a prototype of a working environment > where I > >>> > run > >>> > > Windows as a virtual machine dedicated solely to speech > >>> > > recognition. Then I have a bridge which transfers > key codes > >>> > or > >>> > > other types of speech events over to Linux from windows. > >>> > Right > >>> > > now, I've been somewhat successful with injecting speech > >>> > generated > >>> > > characters into Linux applications. I'm working on > the next > >>> > > generation now and running into problems with > uinput. as > >>> > soon as > >>> > > i fix those problems, using the community developed > macro > >>> > > environment, we will have a reasonably useful speech > >>> > recognition > >>> > > system driving Linux. > >>> > > > >>> > > What I mean by reasonably useful is that I can drive > emacs, > >>> > write > >>> > > prose and a bit of code. With any luck, that would > only be a > >>> > > stone's throw away from being able to execute code > on the > >>> > Linux > >>> > > side as a result of interpreting a grammar on the > Windows > >>> > side. > >>> > > The remote execution capability would put us on a > parity with > >>> > > what's available on Windows. > >>> > > > >>> > > Anyway, if you'd like to help, I would welcome > assistance. > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > On May 29, 2015 8:29 AM, William Best > >>> > <standard7...@gmail.com <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com> > <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com>> > >>> > > <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com > <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com> > >>> > <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com > <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com>>>> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Hello, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > My name is William Best. I am not sure if this is the > >>> > right > >>> > > group to join > >>> > > > for how I would like to contribute. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > My passion/career involves helping people with > >>> > developmental > >>> > > disabilities > >>> > > > get better access to technology. Over the past > year or so, > >>> > I > >>> > > have been > >>> > > > experimenting with different Linux distributions > to come > >>> > up with a > >>> > > > low-cost, stable, and robust solution for the disabled > >>> > people I > >>> > > work with. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > My goal is to help get features/apps that would help > >>> > disabled > >>> > > people access > >>> > > > technology in a better way. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Let me know if I am in the right group for this. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Thanks! > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > > gnome-accessibility-list mailing list > >>> > > gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org > <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org> > >>> > <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org > <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org>> > >>> > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > >>> > gnome-accessibility-list mailing list > >>> > gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org > <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org> > >>> > <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org > <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org>> > >>> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list > >>> > > >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > gnome-accessibility-list mailing list > > gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org > <mailto:gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org> > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-accessibility-list mailing list > gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list > _______________________________________________ gnome-accessibility-list mailing list gnome-accessibility-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
