Well I suppose that I will try to join their next meeting.  Is anyone else
interested in doing so?

Will

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:22 PM Jeremy Whiting <jpwhit...@kde.org> wrote:

> Seems to be here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Accessibility/
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:19 AM, William Best <standard7...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Brian,
> >
> > Where is the site for the GNOME Accessibility Team located?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Will
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:15 PM William Best <standard7...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> All,
> >>
> >> I am familiar with GOK, and actually tracked down the original authors
> of
> >> that software.  I believe they were from the University of Toronto, and
> were
> >> no longer interested in doing that.  I am not sure about caribou.  I
> think a
> >> nice solution would be to integrate switch/pointer access in conjunction
> >> with speech recognition.
> >>
> >> This is a software application that some of the people I work with use:
> >> http://goo.gl/43Mev6
> >>
> >> It is nearly $1000 USD though.
> >>
> >> I think there has to be someone out there with the skills to create
> >> something like this as an open source project.  That is what I would
> like to
> >> help accomplish.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Will
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:02 PM Cesar Mauri <ce...@crea-si.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Will,
> >>>
> >>> Not sure, not much into Gnome specific development, but in the past
> >>> there were efforts devoted to a project called GOK [1]. It was a
> >>> on-screen keyboard which supported scanning access. It seems that now
> it
> >>> has been replaced by Caribou [2]. Not sure about its current status.
> The
> >>> folks involved in this project might provide you more insight.
> >>>
> >>> [1]
> >>>
> >>>
> https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/idp5239184.html
> >>> [2]
> >>>
> >>>
> https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/Caribou?action=show&redirect=Caribou
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> César
> >>>
> >>> El 29/05/2015 a las 17:37, William Best escribió:
> >>> > Cesar,
> >>> >
> >>> > I am going to try out your Viacam project with one of my individuals
> >>> > at the beginning of next week.
> >>> >
> >>> > I would like to get a project going that would bring switch access to
> >>> > Gnome via a programmable on-screen keyboard.
> >>> >
> >>> > How can something like this get started?
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks!
> >>> > Will
> >>> >
> >>> > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:21 AM Cesar Mauri <ce...@crea-si.com
> >>> > <mailto:ce...@crea-si.com>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >     Welcome William,
> >>> >
> >>> >     I've been working with people with cerebral palsy for more than
> ten
> >>> >     years and I maintain the Enable Viacam [1] open source project.
> >>> >     Here in
> >>> >     Spain I'm also involved in this project [2] (web page in Spanish,
> >>> >     sorry)
> >>> >     in which we try to improve the social participation of people
> with
> >>> >     cerebral palsy through the use of technology.
> >>> >
> >>> >     In my view, there is still a lot to be done and, in general,
> >>> >     accessibility is always lagging behind the pace of innovation,
> >>> >     even more
> >>> >     in the FOSS arena. Unfortunately, most "state of the art"
> assistive
> >>> >     technology is privative and, often, scandalously expensive, as
> you
> >>> >     already know.
> >>> >
> >>> >     As for speech recognition, we also had little success with people
> >>> > with
> >>> >     cerebral palsy due to their speech disorders (dysarthria). In
> most
> >>> >     cases
> >>> >     we have to rely on other input methods such as alternative
> >>> > keyboards,
> >>> >     mouses, joysticks or even switches and scanning techniques. Up to
> >>> > our
> >>> >     knowledge, best solutions for specialised scanning access and AAC
> >>> > are
> >>> >     only available for Windows and, in general, privative. One
> >>> >     exception is
> >>> >     SAW (Special Access to Windows) [3], very powerful but only for
> >>> >     Windows
> >>> >     and hard to use for most people. It would great if we had
> >>> >     something like
> >>> >     SAW but easy to use and available for FOSS environments. And this
> >>> > is
> >>> >     just an example. Also open to collaborate.
> >>> >
> >>> >     [1] http://viacam.org
> >>> >     [2] http://aspacenet.aspace.org/
> >>> >     [3] https://sourceforge.net/projects/sawat/
> >>> >
> >>> >     Regards,
> >>> >
> >>> >     César
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >     El 29/05/2015 a las 15:17, William Best escribió:
> >>> >     > Eric,
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     > I would love to help you with your project where I can. My
> >>> > strengths
> >>> >     > are not in writing code per se, but I understand the issues you
> >>> >     face.
> >>> >     > I work with 120 individuals with all forms of disabilities.
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     > How successful have you been with using voice recognition using
> >>> >     > Windows?  I have had limited success with voice recognition
> >>> >     technology
> >>> >     > in my work.  This is mostly due to the people who have physical
> >>> >     > disabilities have cerebral palsy which also presents speech
> >>> > problems
> >>> >     > in these cases.
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     > Access is difficult for folks with disabilities, and my goal is
> >>> > to
> >>> >     > collaborate with others to create open source versions of some
> >>> > very
> >>> >     > expensive propriety software systems.
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     > Could you send a video of you using your setup so I can
> >>> >     visualize it?
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     > Thanks!
> >>> >     > Will
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:06 AM Eric Johansson <e...@eggo.org
> >>> >     <mailto:e...@eggo.org>
> >>> >     > <mailto:e...@eggo.org <mailto:e...@eggo.org>>> wrote:
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >     Welcome to the list. I joined because I am disabled and
> >>> >     >     unfortunately the accessibility models currently available
> >>> >     do not
> >>> >     >     help me in the slightest. I was hoping to find the time to
> >>> > serve
> >>> >     >     my own needs which I know would serve the needs of other
> >>> > people
> >>> >     >     like myself with upper extremities disabilities and
> dependent
> >>> > on
> >>> >     >     speech recognition.
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >     Best laid plans etc cetera. :-)
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >     Here's where I'm at and I could use some help.
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >     the only really useful speech recognition environment right
> >>> >     now is
> >>> >     >     nuances naturally speaking followed closely by Microsoft.
> >>> >     >     obviously the main problem is they only run on Windows.
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >     I have set up a prototype of a working environment where I
> >>> > run
> >>> >     >     Windows as a virtual machine dedicated solely to speech
> >>> >     >     recognition. Then I have a bridge which transfers key codes
> >>> > or
> >>> >     >     other types of speech events over to Linux from windows.
> >>> > Right
> >>> >     >     now, I've been somewhat successful with injecting speech
> >>> >     generated
> >>> >     >     characters into Linux applications. I'm working on the next
> >>> >     >     generation now and running into problems with uinput.  as
> >>> >     soon as
> >>> >     >     i fix those problems, using the community developed macro
> >>> >     >     environment, we will have a reasonably useful speech
> >>> > recognition
> >>> >     >     system driving Linux.
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >     What I mean by reasonably useful is that I can drive emacs,
> >>> >     write
> >>> >     >     prose and a bit of code. With any luck, that would only be
> a
> >>> >     >     stone's throw away from being able to execute code on the
> >>> > Linux
> >>> >     >     side as a result of interpreting a grammar on the Windows
> >>> > side.
> >>> >     >     The remote execution capability would put us on a parity
> with
> >>> >     >     what's available on Windows.
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >     Anyway, if you'd like to help, I would welcome assistance.
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >     On May 29, 2015 8:29 AM, William Best
> >>> >     <standard7...@gmail.com <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com>
> >>> >     >     <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com
> >>> >     <mailto:standard7...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> >>> >     >     >
> >>> >     >     > Hello,
> >>> >     >     >
> >>> >     >     > My name is William Best.  I am not sure if this is the
> >>> > right
> >>> >     >     group to join
> >>> >     >     > for how I would like to contribute.
> >>> >     >     >
> >>> >     >     > My passion/career involves helping people with
> >>> > developmental
> >>> >     >     disabilities
> >>> >     >     > get better access to technology.  Over the past year or
> so,
> >>> > I
> >>> >     >     have been
> >>> >     >     > experimenting with different Linux distributions to come
> >>> >     up with a
> >>> >     >     > low-cost, stable, and robust solution for the disabled
> >>> >     people I
> >>> >     >     work with.
> >>> >     >     >
> >>> >     >     > My goal is to help get features/apps that would help
> >>> > disabled
> >>> >     >     people access
> >>> >     >     > technology in a better way.
> >>> >     >     >
> >>> >     >     > Let me know if I am in the right group for this.
> >>> >     >     >
> >>> >     >     > Thanks!
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >
> >>> >     >
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