Hi,

No we don't. You can't have fractions of elementary particles in your molecules.

Erik

mohsen ramezanpour skrev 2011-04-06 09.13:
Daer Dr.Mark

You are right,But all of them(as I know) have integer charges!
the problem is simullating a system with partial charges.
We absolutely have such systems.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Mark Abraham <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>> wrote:

    On 6/04/2011 4:45 PM, mohsen ramezanpour wrote:
    Dear Dr.Justin

    What can we do (how can neutralize system) if the total charge of
    our system was not integer?
    I think  there is not any solution and we have to simulate a
    charged system not a neutral.
    Am I right?

    I suspect every tutorial for simulating proteins in water deals
    with the need for counter-ions, and the technique for generating them.

    Mark


    Thanks in advance

    On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:12 AM, mohsen ramezanpour
    <ramezanpour.moh...@gmail.com
    <mailto:ramezanpour.moh...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Dear Dr.Justin

        I had the same problem.
        I modified the charges and charge groupsin the  topology of a
        drug.the net charge of it is zero(I am sure)
        though,when I used pdb2gmx it resulted a NOTE like the following:

        NOTE:The system has non-zero total charge: 3.000003e00
        I continued simulation and ignored it!
        Because:
        1- I checked my protein.top and qtot was 3
        2-the net charge of my drug was 0
        3-Besides,all charges have 3 digit precision,How can it have
        0.000003 additional charge?!

        What is your point of view?
        Thanks in advance for your reply



        On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Justin A. Lemkul
        <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



            ??? wrote:



                > Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 23:43:19 +1000
                > From: mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
                <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
                > To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
                <mailto:gmx-users@gromacs.org>
                > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] How to remove charge of
                5e-2 ??
                >
                > On 5/04/2011 11:17 PM, Hyunsik wrote:
                > > Dear experts,
                > >
                > > Hi,
                > >
                > > When prepare a system, the system had +5.5. So I
                add 5 CL- ion to neutralize.
                > >
                > > But as you know, the Cl charge is -1 and there
                still is 5e-2. how can i remove that.
                >
                > Your statements are inconsistent. If you had 5.5
                charge and added five
                > chloride ions, you could not end up with 0.05.

                 oh.. I have mistaken.. I had 5.005 of the system charge.
                  So even if added five choride ions, the system
                charge is not zero. there was 0.005

                 that is partial charge??  If like that, topology is
                broken or something wrong? abnormal??


            Maybe, maybe not.  Rounding errors could account for this
            difference, especially if your system is very large.
             Still, you should inspect your topology/topologies for
            inconsistencies.  If pdb2gmx created the topology, keep
            an eye on the "qtot" column for a running total of the
            charge.  If you've made or adjusted any topologies on
            your own, double-check your work.  If everything looks
            correct, then the difference is likely a consequence of
            floating-point math and nothing more.

            -Justin


                 Thank you,

                 Hyun

                >
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