vinothkumar mohanakrishnan wrote:
Hi Justin

Thank you for your comments. Yes i want to concatenate two systems such that their cross sections are same ( X and Y axis length are same for both the boxes) allowing only the Z axis to change. The above procedure was employed in the literature and latter they combined two boxes.

what i want to know ultimately is can i go ahead with this pressure ( i have no problem with temperature and density) for water to create an interface by combining two boxes?



Yes, it's fine. Regardless, you're going to have to do more equilibration after you've assembled the system.

-Justin

Regards
Vinoth

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalem...@vt.edu <mailto:jalem...@vt.edu>> wrote:



    vinothkumar mohanakrishnan wrote:

        Hi Mark

        How come 7 +/- 500 bar is approximately 1 bar. Can you explain
        it more clearly? It will be of more useful to me to understand
        the concept.


    Suppose you do two simulations.  In one, the result is 7+/-500 and
    in the other, the result is 1+/-500.  Even though the latter
    achieves the preferred result (average pressure of 1 bar),
    statistically, there is no difference between these two results
    because of the huge standard deviations in the data.


        One more thing, density (from g_energy command) of water is
        found to low (expected 1000) after NPT is equilibration. why?
        given below is my average density value. Can i proceed with this
        density value?

Energy Average RMSD Fluct. Drift Tot-Drift
        
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        Density (SI)                 979.37    14.3238    14.2431
        -0.0525784   -5.25789


    Real water and SPC water are different.  I don't know that there is
    any water model out there that perfectly reproduces all the
    properties of water.  A density around 980 sounds about right for SPC.

    A comment on your previous approach: you're hoping to achieve the
    same box dimensions for two different systems in order to
    concatenate them and make an interfacial system?  It would be far
    easier to create the organic phase, extend the box in z, and then
    solvate with genbox.

    -Justin


        Regards
        Vinoth


        On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Mark Abraham
        <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
        <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
        <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>> wrote:

           On 29/10/2010 6:39 PM, vinothkumar mohanakrishnan wrote:

               I am using the semiisotropic pressure scaling because i
            want the
               box size to remain the same as that of the original box
            size in X
               and Y axis and want to change it only on the Z axis. I am
            doing
               this because at a latter stage i want to create an
            interface with
               organic solvent where i need the cross sections (X and Y axis
               length) of both the box should be the same.

               what i should do now  get the pressure of 1 bar?


           7 +/- 500 *is* approximately 1 bar, and hardly any better an
           approximation than 1 +/- 500. If you want lower fluctuations,
        use a
           larger system and run for a much longer time. Or, since
        you'll have
           to re-equilibrate once you combine the solvent boxes, don't
        bother.

           Mark


               Has no one has got the pressure of water to be close to 1
            bar in
               GROMACS till now?

               Regards
               Vinoth

               On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:54 PM, David van der Spoel
               <sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se <mailto:sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se>
            <mailto:sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se <mailto:sp...@xray.bmc.uu.se>>>
            wrote:

                   On 2010-10-29 09.08, vinothkumar mohanakrishnan wrote:


                       Hi Mark

                       I read the link before posting the question. even
            though
                       the fluctation
                       is between 500-600 (as said in the link) bar the
            average
                       pressure is
                       around 7.4 bar. my concern is the average pressure?.
                       Because at a latter
                       stage i am going to combine this water box with
            another
                       organic solvent
                       and i want to avoid any complications there.


                   Think again of what you just wrote. Your value is 7
            +/- 500.
                   In fact according to normal statistical rules you
            should round
                   the value of 7 to 0. If you want more accurate number you
                   could increase the box size by a factor of 100.

                   By the way, why are you using semiisotropic pressure
            scaling
                   in a water box?


                       Regards
                       Vinoth

                       On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Mark Abraham
                       <mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
            <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
            <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
            <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>
                       <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
            <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>
                       <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
            <mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au>>>> wrote:

                          On 29/10/2010 5:48 PM, vinothkumar
            mohanakrishnan wrote:

                              Hi Gromacians

                              I want to do equilibration of water (spc
            model)
                       first in the NVT
                              ensemble and then in the NPT ensemble to
            maintain a
                       temperature
                              of 300K and a pressure of 1 bar
            respectively. The NVT
                              equilibration works fine and the average
                       temperature turns out
                              to be 299.229 K.

Energy Average RMSD Fluct.
                                    Drift            Tot-Drift
                              ------------------------------
------------------------------------------------- Temperature 299.229 10.3092 10.2463
                                0.0393873    3.93877
                              Heat Capacity Cv:       12.494 J/mol K
            (factor =
                       0.00118698)

                                when i do NPT equilibration i am not
            getting the
                       desired
                              pressure as 1 bar or atleast close to 1 bar
                       (between 1-1.4 bar).
                              In the mdp file i used semiisotropic pressure
                       coupling type
                              because i want to fix the length of the
            box same on
                       two axis as
                              that of the original box size and want to
            change it
                       only on one
                              axis. can any one tell me why iam not
            getting the
                       desired
                              pressure of 1 bar?.


                          This looks normal for a smallish water system over
                       100ps. See
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure

                          Mark



Energy Average RMSD Fluct.
                                Drift  Tot-Drift
------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pressure (bar) 7.4339 574.052 573.574
                              0.812129    81.2138

                              Given below is my mdp file (NPT
            equilibration). any
                       help is
                              highly appreciated.

                              title           = DCE NVT equilibration
                              cpp           = usr/bin/cpp
                              integrator   = md
                              nsteps       = 100000
                              dt              = 0.001
                              nstxout       = 100
                              nstvout       = 100
                              nstenergy   = 100
                              nstlog        = 100
                              ns_type     = grid
                              nstlist        = 1
                              rlist            = 1.0
                              coulombtype    = PME
                              rcoulomb         = 1.0
                              vdwtype          = Cut-off
                              rvdw               = 1.0
                              pme_order       = 4
                              fourierspacing  = 0.16
                              pbc                 = xyz
                              tcoupl              = V-rescale
                              tc-grps             = system
                              tau_t                = 0.1
                              ref_t                 = 300
                              pcoupl              = berendsen
                              pcoupltype        = semiisotropic
                              tau_p                = 0.5
                              ref_p                 = 1.0 1.0
                              compressibility   = 0.0 4.5e-5
                              DispCorr            = Enerpres
                              gen_vel             = yes
                              gen_temp          = 300
                              gen_seed          = 173529

                              Regards
                              Vinoth


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